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Have been working on Bergin & Curley line for 30 years.  My GG GF John Bergin (b: Jan 1816) left Ireland June 1841 with his uncle, James Curley (born Roscrea ? 1780), his 10 Curley cousins, & his sister Hannah (b: 1820).  JB's tombstone as well as that of one of his cousins stated that they were natives of "Barna Parish, County Tipperary".  As far as I can determine there is no Barna parish in North Tipp, at least not in Ikerrin barony, where they originated.  We have found one of the Curley dau baptism listing James Curley as father & Catherine Bergin as mother, & living at that time in Ballygorteen, just So of Roscrea.  We are lucky to have been associated with the Curleys as that name is rather rare in No Tipp & has given us a direction in which to go.  Based on Irish family naming patterns, viz a vis names of John Bergin's children (m: Maryann Fox b: Ire ~ 1822), his parent's names might be Patrick & Margaret & they presumably remained in No Tipperary.  As far as the "Barna" question, I think it is either: 1.) the Catholic parish in No Tipp on Offaly border was Dunkerrin Union with "chapels" at Dunkerrin & Barna - both in Offaly, or 2.) it's the civil parish of Bourney, aka Bournea ---> does Bournea on the Irish tongue in mid 1800s sound like Barna.  My choice of Bourney results from the Curley dau baptism listin address as Ballygorteen which I believe is in Boruney civil parish.  Can any "Tippers" give me a hand here.

Thanks, John Bergin, 1698 Rugby Rd, Schenectady, NY 12309,    Havergan@gmail.com

 

 

 

John Regis Bergin

Monday 12th Aug 2013, 04:16PM

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  • John, I am looking at old queries and have reached yours, there is a Barna parish but mainly in Offaly around Moneygall but reaches into Tipperary on two sides, (Obama has some sort of relative from around there) https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0762 Records commence in 1820 so nothing prior that we are aware of.  The same applies to Roscrea where records commence in 1810. 

    Civil divisions can be found here https://www.townlands.ie/ Barba as an Electoral Division will be seen in Offaly, Civil and religious divisions can be different and named differently and will often turn up on a Google search.

    Surname distribution can be seen here for free but a subscription site. https://www.johngrenham.com/surnames/ 

    Good Luck

    Pat

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