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Hi,

I'm seeking information on my 2nd great-grandfather Bernard, whose history is interesting.

In the 1901 census, Bernard and his family (Sarah was McCahill, Thomas, Maggie & Mary) Lived in Mountcharles, Donegal but their last name was Molloy. 

Skip forward 10 years, and the Molloys no longer exist. Instead, they are now Logues - living across the road from the last census. By this point Bernard has died, he died in 1909. On his death record, he is now called Logue and everyone else in the family is, who all died Logue.

His life was varied from Farmer, Marchant and Cobbler ( i believe)

I've searched Graveyards for them but can't find any for either name and I'm now stuck as i cant even find Thomas, Mary, Maggie or Sarah.

I've heard that Gelnties is a place that also rings true to them but can't find anything.

If it's any help my DNA is pointing towards south and central Donegal as well as Inishowen but i can't trace anything this way.

Any help would be much appreciated as i am keen to find any older relations to Bernard.

Thanks

Ciaran

Ciaran

Thursday 9th Mar 2023, 10:29PM

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  • Ciaran,

    Molloy & Logue are interchangeable synonymous names, so the switch from one to the other from time to time is because it’s the same name. There used to be quite a bit of that. Other examples of interchangeable surnames are: McDowell & Madole, Robertson & Robinson, Kilpatrick and Kirkpatrick, Nogher & Connor, Patterson & Pattison, Faulkner & Falconer, McConnell & McDonnell, Kerr & Carr, Stewart & Stuart, Stevenson & Steenson.  Sometimes it was down to spelling eg Robertson & Robinson, with others it was how a gaelic version had been anglicised eg Nogher & Connor.

    MacLysaght’s “The Surnames of Ireland” says: Molloy, Mulloy O Maolmhuaidh (The adjective muadh denotes big and soft as well as noble). An important sept of Fercal in mid Leinster. Molloy is also an anglicised form of O Maolaoidh see Millea. Apart from five variant spellings, such as Maloy and Mulloy, Molloy has been officially recorded as a synonym of Mulvigue (Connacht), Logue (Co. Donegal), Mullock (Offaly), Mulvihill (Kerry) and Slowey (Co. Monaghan) while Maloy has been used for MacCloy in Co. Derry.”

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 9th Mar 2023, 11:14PM

  • ciaran:

    See next to last record at this link. Sarah died in 1914  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05288/4469658.pdf

    Looks like Mary died in 1942. Sister Maggie was the informant  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1943/04655/4238349.pdf

    The 1911 census shows that Thomas was a theological student and likely planning to be a priest. Maybe he was assigned to parishes in other parts of Donegal and Maggie went to live with him after Mary's death? Just some speculation.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 9th Mar 2023, 11:33PM

  • Hello, I also have a Richard Molloy 1810-1876, and cannot find any information beyond. Richard married Hannah Roche and they lived south of Dublin. Ethnicities shows North Ireland roots. Open to any information or connections I can find.

    GenXJoe

    Thursday 16th Mar 2023, 01:55AM

  • Hi All,

    Sorry for the delayed response, i didn't get any notifications on this post.

    Thanks for the back story on the last name, fascinating!! but it definitely makes finding ancestors harder haha.

    Yes, Thomas was a theological student training to be a priest but decided not to continue in this. He trained to be a teacher and taught in New York and England. They went back to Ireland where he began a school in Ballybofey called Finn college.

    I haven't come across Richard Molloy name before, do we have any idea if they are linked somehow?

    I really appreciate all your responses so far. 

    Ciaran

    Ciaran

    Sunday 19th Mar 2023, 09:20PM

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