Catherine Barry from Cork

See February 24th  message and responses  https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/ellen-callaghan-born-cork-18312

This might be the couple on the UK census:

Marriage:        11-Feb-1839                

Parish of Kanturk, Co. Cork

John  Barry,    Catherine Callahan, both R.C.

Witnesses: John Callahan, Mary Callahan

Priest: Rev James Ryan

Source: rootsireland.

Thanks Patricia

can you read their ages on the 1891 census as I’m having trouble … I wondered if this marriage would be too early to match them??!

I think they’re 65 in 1891 so makes them around 1826 for year of birth roughly… a little young for 1839 marriage??? I know we can never be sure of the ages!

Callahan and Barry probably common names there?

Is it worth searching under O’Callahan… did the Irish shorten it when they arrived in England?

regards

Alas, I think you are right --they were too young to be the 1839 couple.

Did Irish drop the O in UK? Maybe some did.

The rootsireland search engine provides variations of surnames when you search on a surname, so O'Callahan and Callahan would both appear.

Well we can make a guess that Catherine and Ellen were sisters eh!

Thanks for your help Patricia!

Regards

Hi Patricia

I found the Barry children on birth records and their mother was Cleary not Callaghan. So not sisters… Just Cork people sticking together!

Regards

It's still possible they were related--maybe cousins.

Very true!

Regards

Hi i have seen your post about the Barry family living in Eltham my great grandmother was Johanna Barry she was Catherine and John Barry and living in Sun Yard she meet my great grandfather also living there James Edwin Hurven i trying to see our Catherine parents were I have done a DNA test and i can’t find the link to the Barry family at the moment do you have any more information kind regards Latte 

Hello

All I know is my 3x get grandma from Cork (Ellen Brown nee Callaghan) was living in Sun Yard. Someone suggested that her and Catherine may have been cousins or something. John Barry and Catherine ( nee Cleary) were from Timoleague Cork. Johanna born 1875 in the same place. Catherine and/or John Barry maybe related to my Ellen Callaghan as she was also from Cork.

regards

David

There is a marriage for John Barry and Catherine Cleary on Feb 24 1857 in Clonakilty. You see I’m trying to find where in Cork my Ellen Callaghan was born and if the Barry’s, the Clearys  sand the Callaghan’s are linked it could be that my Ellen was from Clonakilty. Roger on this site found the marriage.

Hi i am looking for information about a Johanna Barry i think someone called Roger put a birth on here for a Johanna Barry born in 1875 a place called Timoleague Cork her mother and father were a John Barry and Catherine Cleary she was my great grandmother and her parents would have been my 2x great grandparents also born in Cork they all moved to the UK because they are on the 1881 and 1891 census and also how could i get a marriage certificate for Catherine and John any information would be useful kind regards Sue 

Hello

I'm not sure how you get the marriage cert from Ireland. 
I put the document about Johana’s birth on here. The Barry’s were living next door to my 3x great grandma Ellen Callaghan in Sun Yard Eltham.

I was trying to find out if Ellen and the Barry’s were connected as Ellen Callaghan was also from Cork.

regards

David

PS my 3 x great grandmother living at Sun Yard on the 1881 and 1891 census was living with her husband Thomas Brown and children… So she was Ellen Brown nee Callaghan