DNA Roots

I'd love a response to this as well.  I have had my DNA tested by both 23andMe and ftDNA.  Don't want to pay again, but would love to be synced with people in Ireland who sign up for that project!!!

I, too, have had testing done with 23 & Me and would like to know how to participate.

Hello, I'm also very interested in this project. I have had testing done with FamilyTreeDNA, and would like to hear how to participate with FamilyTreeDNA.

Ditto.

My father has been tested as an E1b1b haplogroup which is pretty rare (2%?) in Ireland.

I'd love to submit his results, or at least compare his results to this database.

I'm hoping this would give me new leads and some locations to search.

Colleen

I ran my Y dna test with Family Tree, also, to prove or disprove once and for all my family tradition that we are Irish Hopkins. I proved it with absolute certainty. It took a series of tests and working with others who tested already.
The Y is passed from father to son in an unbroken chain through time. That's why it is great for surname projects. The testing by Ancestry and 23 and Me, as well as the Family Finder test by ftdna,  are a different test than what I took and each has its main focus. 

I did not match any Hopkins of English, Scot, Welsh lines except in common markers which most Europeans have in common. 

Y DNA research is a God's send, in my opinion, in unraveling history and solving brick walls or road blocks in research. It also reveals many mysteries.

My uncle tested and came back E1b. This floored everyone as we have a paper trail to the early 1800's.

R1b1a2a1a1b4* is the long hand form of my results. R-DF49 is the shorthand version of it. Just fyi, 79% of all males of Irish descent carry one or both snps DF23 and or M222. Testing at this point indicates they both come from DF49.

I am not an expert in this topic only an interested participant. I'm glad to help anyone with their Irish research.

Patrick Hopkins imhoppy2 at yahoo

Good grief Patrick, you are losing me with the codes. Can you point me to an explaination of how to interpret what the code you gave mean? I don't think we need to put the full lesson here on XO tho. 

Carey

Haplogroups are the general yDNA categories indicating a broad genetic strain.

About 85% if Irish men are R1b, supposedly when Niall of the Nine Hostages took over Ireland and spread his DNA (and that of his clan) everywhere.

Local inhabitants with other haplogroups like the E1b strain of my father were either killed or were pushed into the corners of Ireland . This is good news for my father, because his haplogroup is rare in Ireland. When the IrelandsDNA project finds a pocket of E1b, I'll be on the next plane to check out records at that location.

ftDNA does all 3 types of testing.  [Y-, mt-, Autosomal].  See the attached for a simplified [perhaps overly] explanation of the 3 types.

Ancestry.com [the new test and only one now available] and 23AndMe focus on the new trans-gender Autosomal DNA testing, sometimes referred to as the 'Cousin' test.  It is a powerful tool for the near-term, say 5 or 6 generations and independent of gender.

All 3 labs use the same or similar-enough test 'chips' that their raw results can be compared or contrasted, though neither has stepped forward to do so for free...  I am very curious to learn the details of this new IrelandXO DNA agreement/partnership...

Bob H.

I am also very interested in DNA projects, and have joined several through Family Tree DNA. If you have already tested there, please check out this page about projects:

http://www.familytreedna.com/projects.aspx

and join any that are relevant to your ancestry. There are surname projects, which are usually for males (yDNA projects), but there are also many surname or geographical projects that allow the autosomal testers to join (Family Finder test). I join whatever I can, and have met distant cousins whom I work with in trying to find our common ancestors. 

If you've tested at 23andme.com, you may transfer your results to Family Tree DNA now. Any day now, Family Tree DNA  will also begin accepting test results from ancestry.com into their Relative Transfer program. After you have transferred, you may join the appropriate DNA projects at Family Tree DNA. It's a great resource for those of us looking to find our ancestors from Ireland.

Regards,

Mary McCarthy

I transferred by father's yDNA test results from Ancestry to FTDNA a year ago. There is a charge.
I did this specifically so I could participate in DNA projects such as surname groups.

You can then transfer results to YSearch.org, another yDNA compare-and-share site.

Colleen

Be careful with managing expectations here...  It is my understanding that the 23andMe testing of Y- and Mt- is very limited and gives you 'ancestry' or haplogroup info only derived from SNPs and not STRs.  It CANNOT be used for Y- or mt- Project comparisons at all...

Additionally the ftDNA transfer is not free.  It alone is $89.  See the attached file, obtained from this link:

http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=42#1692

23andme results are only good for the Relative Transfer program, and therefore the autosomal projects only, not the yDNA or mtDNA projects. I should have made that more clear. 

The transfer is $89, but cheaper than starting over again with another test at Family Tree DNA for $189, if you've already tested at 23andme for $99. I assume the cost will be the same to transfer the ancestry.com results. 

ysearch.org is a great site to transfer your yDNA results to, and gedmatch.com is a site to transfer your autosomal results for any of the three companies.

Mary

My Family Tree kit number is 19499.
My Y Search id is 2RSNS.

Have a look. Contact me if you wish.

IrishHopkins, how do I search for you on Family tree?  I don't see a way to input your test kit number....

Gayle.

1. search Google: 19499 ftdna None of my personal information is there, just a discussion of the results.

2. Search for Hopkins surname group.

Hope this helps you,

Patrick 

I would like to know what project you are referring to. I did a search for "DNA Roots" but did not get a specific project,

My brother has had his DNA tested at ftDNA and we would like to do as much as possible to compare his results to others.

Thanks!  Sarah O'Hare Amy

I would like to know what project you are referring to. I did a search for "DNA Roots" but did not get a specific project,

My brother has had his DNA tested at ftDNA and we would like to do as much as possible to compare his results to others.

Thanks!  Sarah O'Hare Amy

The Vol 2 Issue 5 April 2013 e-Newsletter, and the IRISHDNA ROOTS tab, second from right at the top menu of this web site, discuss the new project.

As 23andMe does autosomal DNA testing it will, in my estimation, be most revealing for families interrelated over the past 200 years or so.  Since this testing is less useful beyond 5 or 6 generations it is imperative we ask our eldest relatives to participate, and as soon as we can...

23andMe does not do Y- or mt- testing but tests enough specific SNPs [they test over 700,000 SNPs] to determine your haplogroups; your mother-mother-mother...  and your father-father-father...  paths back for thousands of years.  

They can also tell you why you don't like cilantro...

www.23andme.com

Bob H.

Sarah,

Did your brother have a yDNA test, or the Family Finder test at ftDNA? If he did the yDNA, he can join a haplotype project for whatever his paternal haplotype is. There may also be a specific surname project for his surname. There are other Irish geographical projects that he would qualify for. If he clicks on the projects page, then clicks on join, the projects that he might be eligible for will appear below. He may join as many projects as he wishes.

Regards,

Mary

From the US, 3 kits in 23andMe database:

Bunny McKernan Moffett - Ancestry all Irish; McKernan, Burton, Cantwell, Flannery

Her son, Jesse Moffett

Her Daughter, Sheryl Moffett Hanson

They are in GEDMatch, too, but not yet fully indexed for matching.  GEDMatch kits:

M054404

M051304

M131402

It is still very unclear how this is going to be useful to anyone but apparently someone has a master vision, other than marketing DNA testing...

approximately 7.5 generations to common ancestor:

Comparing Kit M980069 (john t) and M051304 (*Sam Moffett)

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 700 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 350 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 7.0 cM

ChrStart LocationEnd LocationCentimorgans (cM)SNPs2219793730229736097.2870Largest segment = 7.2 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 7.2 cM
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

@jltunnell...

GedMatch [www.gedmatch.com] is a great site/tool for DNA comparisons [x- and as- , not y- or mt- ], especially between kits tested by the different companies.

Funny, but Sam's Irish side is from her mom, but the segment where you match she got from her dad's side, predominantly Scotch.  Even though 7.2 cM is but 0.2 % or your DNA, odds are still better than 50/50 that you do indeed share common ancestors in the last 300-500 years or so.  Try finding them, though...   :)

This Irish DNA project is off to a slow start.  Not surprisingly as DNA is complex both in depth and diversity.  I do believe the autosomal DNA is the right overall approach, and that a database/service like GedMatch that is NOT company/tester specific is the way to go about it.  Our common ancestors shared a time and a place with absolute certainty.  That they shared our surname is highly unlikely, and somewhat esoteric.

I'll tell Sam I found her another cousin !!

Bob H., Sam's (Sheryl...) husband

It is exciting, but as you say, "try finding them" is the real thrill kill.

thanks so much for your reply and maybe, just maybe, someday we will find that common ancestor.

I have a fairly comprehensive family tree (here) and, more than likely, the match would be on my maternal grandfather's side (Robert Leonard Johnson).

thanks again!

John

Our tree is at:  http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/11254434/family

Living folks are hidden.  Irish surnames are McKernan, Burton/Barton, Cantwell and who knows 500 years ago...   :)

Bob