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I have birth cert for Mary Ann Teresa Gallagher b 1843 Manchester, England. Her father Patrick Gallagher and mother Elizabeth Swalthy.

I have found on Irishgenealogy.ie. baptism for Elizabeth Swalthy 26 July 1812 her father John Swalthy mother Elizabeth Barry. There are also two other baptisms to these parents for Margaret Swalthy b 1804 and Bartholomew b1809.  I cannot find a marriage for John  Swalthy and Elizabeth Barry.

Another that popped up was a baptism for a William Swalthy 1797 a son to John Swalthy and Elizabeth Barry but its at St. Marys, Cork City, Cork & Ross.

Swalthy seems an unusual name to me. Appreciate anyhelp with ideas: I wonder if this is the same John & Elizabeth and they moved from Cork to Dublin then at some point Elizabeth married Patrick Gallagher and moved to England.

Thanks for any help.

Maura

MauraUK

Friday 3rd Jul 2020, 10:36AM

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  • Hi Maura,

    You may be already aware of the marrriage of Margaret Swalthy to William Buckley in Clogheen in 1823 and the marriage of Walter Swalthy to Catherine Bourke in Cahir in 1810 - attached copy. No marriage record found for John Swalthy to Elizabeth Barry.

    Regards,

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    McCoy

    Friday 3rd Jul 2020, 01:18PM
  • Hi Maura,

    Attached copy of the parish register for Gerald Swallthy and Catherine which would appear to be Rourke, rather than Bourke?

    The transcription differs!

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    Regards,

    McCoy

    Friday 3rd Jul 2020, 01:56PM
  • Thanks so much for your reply and attachments. Since I posted I have trawled records and found a marriage for John Swalthy and Elizabeth Barry so now have:

    John Swelthy to Elizabeth Barry on 28th Sept 1794 at St. Mary's, Cork

                     Their children:      William baptised 15 Aug 1797 St. Mary's Cork

                                                  Margaret baptised 12 Aug 1804 St. Catherine's, Dublin

                                                  Bartholomew baptised 14 May 1809  St Catherine's Dublin

                                                  Elizabeth baptized 26 July 1812 St. Catherine's Dublin who married Patrick Gallagher b 1799 then moved to Manchester England.

    I am concerned to have the right family. Do you agree that the above is likely to be the one family. I am about prepared to accept they are.

    How all the others fit in, I'm not sure. I have looked at the marriage of Margaret Swalthy and William Buckley and while the dates fit I'm can't think why she would go back to Cork as she was born in Dublin. It's feasible, as it is about the time I would be expecting Elizabeth and Patrick Gallagher to marry - perhaps all the family were on the move and they had relatives back in Cork.

    Regarding Elizabeth Barry who married John Swelthy: I have found a baptism on 30th June 1770 with father Gerard Barry and mother Elizabeth Locke -these dates seem to fit and then I found marriage: Gerard Barry to Elizabeth Locke 11 June 1769 St. Peter & Paul, Cork.

    I don't know where Margaret Swalthy who married William Broderick fits it. 'Swalthy' seems an uncommon name but I've found quite a few in 1700's and can't work out how they are all connected.

    Thanks for your assistance, it's helped me push on and any other advice greatly appreciated.

    Maura

    MauraUK

    Saturday 4th Jul 2020, 12:24PM
  • Hi Maura,

    Difficult to confirm. There was the marriage of Margaret Swalthy to William Broderick in 1769 and the marriage of Amy Swalthy to Thomas Devany in 1788. The marriage of Gerald Swathly to Catherine Rourke 1810 in Cahir.  Witnesses: Peter Herrick and Margaret Herrick. In 1784 a Patrick Rourke married Anastasia Herrick in Cahir. Could they be the parents of Catherine Rourke Swalthy? Their address was Suir Bank.

    A Thomas Swalthy was baptised in 1811 in Cahir. Parents: Garret Swalthy and M Herrick. No record found for their marriage.

    Could the naming of John Swalthy's children - William and Margaret - be influenced by Margaret & William Broderick. No issue found for them.

    It may be beneficial to check out the "Herrick" connection. The "Herrick's" were prominent in County Cork in that period.

    Regards,

    McCoy

    Sunday 5th Jul 2020, 04:19PM

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