I am researching the family of William & Frances Howard. William was a tailor born in Dublin. Frances was also born there, both in about 1841. They had 8 children as follows:- Magaret, Joseph, John, Christopher, Mary, Con, William & Frances. They moved to London in about 1865/70.
Bunsey
Wednesday 28th Aug 2013, 11:08AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Alan,
I checked rootsireland for the births and marriage of William and Frances but had no luck.
On ancestry the 1901 English Census has them aged 60 with children William 25 and Richard living in Hackney.
The place of birth of both is Belford Ireland but Belford is in Northumberland not Ireland.
ancestry has their marriage 1st december 1866 Dalston St Philip Hackney; fathers are James Howard and Mathew Humbley - she was Frances Naria Humbley
Col Cafferky
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thanks for that Col but I think you have the wrong family. Just to confuse matters, I remembered today that my father said that the Howards were originally O'Tooles and that they changed their name to avoid some unspecified trouble.
I have pasted in extracts from the London Census 1871 & 1881.
London 1871 Census
Howard Joseph 51 Head Tailor Ireland
Howard Margaret 51 Wife Ireland
Howard William 28 Son Tailor Ireland
Howard Francis 27 Wife Ireland
Howard Joseph 15 Son Tailor Ireland
Howard Christopher 11 Son Scholar Ireland
Howard Lawrence 8 Son Scholar Ireland
Howard John 7 Son Scholar Ireland
Howard Thomas 6 Son Scholar Ireland
Howard Charles 4 Son Scholar Ireland
Howard Mary 2 Daur London,
Marsden Ann 67 Lodger Formerly Laundress Tower Hamlets,
London 1881 Census
Howard William 40 Head Tailor Dublin, Ireland
Howard Francis 40 Wife Dublin, Ireland
Howard Margaret 21 Daughter Machinist Dublin, Ireland
Howard Joseph 19 Son Tailor Dunlee, Ireland
Howard John 15 Son Tailor Dublin, Ireland
Howard Christopher 14Son Tailor Dublin, Ireland
Howard Mary 11 Daughter Scholar Islington, Middlesex
Howard Con 7 Son Scholar Islington, Middlesex
Howard William 4 Son Scholar Islington, Middlesex
Howard Frances 1 Daughter Islington, Middlesex
Morgan Thomas 26 Visitor Soldier Islington, Middlesex
Margaret Howard was my Great Great Grandmother. I have searched for Wiliam &Frances O'Toole but have found nothing so far.
Thanks for your interest.
Alan.
Bunsey
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Hi Alan,
I scoured rootsireland and ancestry but had no luck!
The only glimmer was that several public member trees on ancestry had frances as Frances Little, Unfortunately that didn't bring any better results.
Given that the births are all Dublin before England, maybe try the Dublin message board on this site.
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Howard O'Toole.
My wife's grandmother was Margaret Mary Enness (nee Howard)
Born 1887 Balls Pond Road, Islington. London. Her father was Christopher Stephen Howard born 1866 Plunkett St. Dublin. Mother Agness Caroline Howard ne James.
Christopher migrated to Shoreditch, London in 1871 with his parents. He became a Tailor like his father
Christopher's father was Laurence William Christopher Howard O'Toole born 1842 Dublin..a tailor.
Margaret married a John William Enness in 1910 at Hackney (London) Register Office.
I am trying to find out more about Margaret and her family. She died 1953 in the German Hospital Hackney. London.
My wife Janet or the extended family have no photograph of Margaret and are desperate to locate one at any age.
Any help/contact appreciated. Mr Robin Greenaway. Suffolk. England
Robin Greenaway