Finding Moran's Farm, Co. Waterford

I'm familiar with the town of Ramsgrange but in Co. Wexford - see Google Map, I dont know of a town or townland of that name in Co. Waterford.  Ramsgrange is not close to the sea, although I think you may be able to catch glimpses from of the estuary of the Three Sisters - Rivers Nore, Suir  & Barrow, from some areas near Ramsgrange.

Do you have a marriage cert for Michael or his brother James ?
This should usually show father's name and occupation which could help narrow down possible matches...

The name of Patrick's mother could also be useful as his birth may have been at or near the old family home.

Did the family move from Ramsgrange to Co. Waterford at some stage ?

I think I've located this Moran family on the 1911 Wales census at Merthyr Tydfil, Michael age 29 lists his place of birth as 'Co. Wexford', for his wife Catherine 'Ramsgrange', for their two sons Peter and Patrick 'Waterford', and their daughter Anastasia, Merthyr. 

Based on a likely birth index reference for Anastasia it looks like Catherine's maiden surname could be Aylward ?
 

The place of birth given for the two sons of just Waterford, without a 'Co.' suggests to me the reference is to somewhere in, or at least near to, the city....

I had a quick look for any Moran/Aylward births in the area, but nothing promising showing up so far....

possible matches for the brths of Michael & James to make note of :

James Moran born 1st March 1880, Ramsgrange
Michael Moran born 25th November 1881, Ramsgrange

Parents Peter Moran & Anastasia Clegg, father's occupation is Farmer. The Peter and Anastasia mentioned on the 1911 census could be names passed down...

found a likely marriage for Michael Moran & Catherine Aylward on the 23rd April 1906 (IrishGenealogy.ie free website) in the RC parish of Trinity Without in Waterford city.

Both are listed as full age with Michael's occupation appears to be Postman and his residence as 49 Parnell St., and Catherine's as Wellington St. The groom's father is recorded as Peter Moran farmer and the bride's as Patrick Aylward pig buyer. The witnesses appear to be Edward Wyneberry and Mary Cleary.

Based on the possible details located so far - I'd say this the  Moran Household in 1911 with Peter and Anastasia, this just gives 'Ramsgrange' as residence, so likely somewhere in the town, or close to the town in the townland also called Ramsgrange. The townland consists of just over 1200 acres. Here's the same family in 1901 - six of their children at home, but no sign of Michael, however the 1911 census indicates that the couple had 8 children living at that time..

One possible line of research would be to check the Cancelled Land Books/Valuation Records held by the Valuation Office in Dublin city. These records work forward from Griffith's Primary Valuation, similar in format, and carry forward to the 1970s (abolition of domestic rates), and show details of changes to the property along with principle occupant, immediate lessor etc.

p.s. I think Michael inadvertently used extra lines when filling in the 1911 census, and the first two line refer to him - Co. Wexford, Ramsgrange, the next two 'Waterford' refer to his wife and eldest son, with Merthyr his younger two children and the  last two lines 'Co. Wexford, Ramsgrange' in reference to his brother, possibly also for the boarder Patrick.

To All Who Replied, A massive, massive thank you for your help. I have contacted the records office with the information provided - it all tallies in with what I found out about Michael in Merthyr Tydfil. It means so much - thank you. I will keep you posted and if I find the land will post very happy looking pictures of me and my cousin for all to see! Happy Easter All. Gabbi.

I would just like to say a massive thank you to the community - myself and my cousin found the farm and as promised I am posting a photograph of us in front of the view from the farm. It was a very special day - thank you.

I have something else to add to the story and may need some help with it, possibly from a museum or something. Over the summer I visited my mother in Merthyr Tydfil and she had dug out some family history for me, which we researched further at the library in Merthyr. My great-grandfather, Michael, who was born at the farm in Duncannon wrote poetry about 'the troubles'. Apparently, he used to recite his poetry in the pub that he ran in Merthyr (the Golden Lion). My mother has kept his original transcripts, which she has now bequeathed to me. I have read what I can but the 100-year pages are very fragile, I think that this is original stuff, and while I want copies of it, I feel it is a part of Irish history and am therefore not quite sure what to do with it. Bearing in mind that Michael was from Wexford, it is definitely part of Wexford history. I have spoken with my mother and she is agreed that if it is of some form of significance to Irish history then we would donate (as long as we had copies).

Maybe there is a lot of poetry about the subject and it is of not much value, we are not sure, but if someone is interested, please contact me. Many thanks Gabbi