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I enjoyed reading the article IrelandXO Insight - Irish Naming and Baptism Traditions.  My question concerns the timeframes in the article.  It seems to speak to before and after the Great Famine but not during.  I have a particular Irish family that seems to have emigrated from Ireland to England during the Great Famine and spent a little time in Scotland in between.  There is a child’s baptism in Scotland in 1849 which is in the middle of the Great Famine.  Which naming pattern would seem to be the most applicable?  I’m interested in finding out the pattern and how one of the witnesses might relate.

charding

Friday 23rd Aug 2019, 10:16AM

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  • The article is interesting. I've started looking again, with fresh eyes,  at baptism registers for my relatives. 

    As I understand it, the naming pattern of children remained the same as before the famine.  A difference might be choice of godparents. Pre-Famine, parents of a child may have had several siblings living nearby from whom to select godparents. Post-Famine, the pool of sibling potential godparents may have shrunk, either because many of the siblings had emigrated, or because the parents had emigrated. 

    As the people you are researching had moved to Scotland, the choice of godparents would have depended on who was available.  Who survived; who remained in Ireland; who moved to the same place in Scotland; who emigrated elsewhere? 

    I take issue with churching of the mother being described as cleansing from sin in the article.  I know it has been misinterpreted as such.  The churching ceremony began as a thanksgiving and  blessing service for the new mother and a welcome back to the church and to society after her confinement.  The traditional 6 weeks post -birth spent at home predated Christianity.  The custom originated in:  a) the need for a woman in an agrarian society to be given time to recover from childbirth and to devote her energy to the baby instead of work;  and:  b) the belief that a woman who had recently given birth was in danger of being stolen by "The Little People" to nurse one of their babies, so it was safer for her to stay near home.  Her baby was also at risk of being kidnapped by them. 

    Maggie May

    Friday 23rd Aug 2019, 09:25PM
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    Maggie,

    Good morning!  Interesting discussion on the mother’s position after the birth.

    From the Scotsland People record that I have on the baptism of William Gallagher:

    1849, Gallagher, William

    Hawick, SS Mary and David

    Birth:  Nov 4

    Parents:  John Gallagher and Eliza O’Hara

    Date Baptised:  Nov 18

    Where Born:  Kelso

    Sponsor’s Names:  Peter Hetherton and Ellen O’Hara

    Clergyman:  Patrick Taggert(Laggert?)  - not sure if it is a T or an L 

    Cheryl

     

    charding

    Saturday 24th Aug 2019, 11:24AM
  • So, here’s another question.  Did the sponsor’s have to be of a certain age to be able to be a sponsor?  For the information above, if I were to try to find Peter Hetherton and Ellen O’Hara, would they have to be at least 18 to 21 to be a sponsor?  Is there further explanation of sponsor’s requirements during that timeframe/era?

    charding

    Saturday 24th Aug 2019, 11:33AM

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