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I am wanting to learn if anyone can help us find a John Haughey, from County Monaghan, perhaps from the Leslie Estate, who emigrated to Prince Edward Island in 1839 - 40. He is listed as being among the first dozen settlers to Kelly's Cross. In connection with him, wife perhaps?, could there have been a Sarah/Sally nee Kelly (b of birth between 1806 and 1819?) mother Mary Kelly, sister to Edward (1806), Arthur (1819) and John (1820). Thank you. 

Pauline Murphy Sutow

Saturday 13th Aug 2022, 01:19PM

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  • Hi there is a John Haughy marrying a Sarah Kelly on 23rd September 1837, parish is Donagh, County Monaghan, Banns were dispensed, assume not necessary and 3 Shillings was the cost, at the time that was 36 pence and there were 240 pence in a pound. Looks like were Castle Leslie is, by the way one of the Leslie's gave the message for the charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava, he had been wounded the previous day and blamed himself for the charge, changed his name subsequently to avoid shame on his family, little side story, family are still there today. Paul McCarthy got married there years ago.

    There is a John Haughy born 1806 in Monaghan but in Clones so probably not him. 

    There is a Patrick Hahy (transcription) born in July 23 1838, note says that the names and townlands of parents were not taken at this time, in case this is your man.

    Good Luck

    Pat

    St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Saturday 13th Aug 2022, 09:17PM
  • Thank you very much for this Pat. Can you recommend how we might find out more about the Sarah Kelly?

    The connection to the Leslie Estate is very resonant and we would much like to pursue this further, if you can help.

    Were there sponsors/witnesses to the marriage noted?

    A Kelly matriarch, Mary, emigrated, we have reason to believe, from the Leslie estate in 1839, with the sons (noted August 13) and perhaps this Sarah Kelly/Haughy).

    Mary, with John Haughey, is  also listed as one of the first settlers to Kelly's Cross PEI. Exiles and Islanders: The Irish Settlers of Prince Edward Island, Brendan O’Grady, Montreal: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2004

    (Interesting side note on the Charge of the Light Brigade!)

    Thank you, 

    Pauline

    Pauline Murphy Sutow

    Monday 12th Sep 2022, 02:01PM
  • Hello Pauline, only got the notification today as the site has had "issues" with notifications. There is no other information on the transcriptions but you can view the actual register free here https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0303 unfortunately you can only search by year and month and read yourself, Christian names are often in Latin so brush up !!!!

    Assume the estate records are still in the family possession, however you could email the county library or archives to see if they can assist. https://

    onaghan.ie/library/local-history/

    I do not see a county archive listed, it is possible the eatate papers or some of them where put in the National Archives but unlikely to be online so you have to visit. You will probably find some Monaghan Genealogy or history Facebook pages as most counties have them, apply to join, some tend to be very active others less so but people there are at least motivated.  

    The Tithe Applottments list people and townlands who paid church tithese 1824 to 1838 I think, the Church of Ireland had some social responsibility to bury the dead etc it was not popular and only those with over an acre of land were liable.  There are only 6 Haughy listed but a lot of Kelly's and 44 in Donagh,  not sure how you could isolate your interests. http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp 

    Later from 1848 there is Griffith Valuation and you can see that here https://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ There are only 3 Haugheys and one as a landlord to a Reynolds, there are maps associated with these records again if you isolate but there are so few Haugheys they may all be related. This was done about 1861.

     

    Good Luck

    Pat

    St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Thursday 13th Oct 2022, 08:31PM
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