John Maguire

Kay, there is a Kilashee in counties Longford and Kildare, there is a John McGuire born in Killashee in Longford in 1860, there are other John McGuires born in 1856 in Longford but not Kilashee, father is Robert and Mother is Elizabeth Dodd, it is Church of Ireland, in notes it says Fr Crawford, there was another child in 1857 William George, there are two other children to this couple registered in Granard, in 1864 and 1865 Julia Anne and Elizabeth, the civil entries are free on line at Irish Genealogy. In one the father Robert is listed as a sub Constable, so not from there as they could not serve in their home counties, if this is them there are other ways to trace him. 

There are 3 John Maguires born in Kildare 1851 to 1861, one appears to be in the military, one possibly born on a canal boat, and one other, mothers Macken; Costello and Kelly. Two fathers had Christian names of Alexander and Walter while the other is John, years 1854 and 1855 for the three.

Ring any bells, see https://www.townlands.ie/ for civil areas.

Pat

Kay, there is a Kilashee in counties Longford and Kildare, there is a John McGuire born in Killashee in Longford in 1860, there are other John McGuires born in 1856 in Longford but not Kilashee, father is Robert and Mother is Elizabeth Dodd, it is Church of Ireland, in notes it says Fr Crawford, there was another child in 1857 William George, there are two other children to this couple registered in Granard, in 1864 and 1865 Julia Anne and Elizabeth, the civil entries are free on line at Irish Genealogy. In one the father Robert is listed as a sub Constable, so not from there as they could not serve in their home counties, if this is them there are other ways to trace him. 

There are 3 John Maguires born in Kildare 1851 to 1861, one appears to be in the military, one possibly born on a canal boat, and one other, mothers Macken; Costello and Kelly. Two fathers had Christian names of Alexander and Walter while the other is John, years 1854 and 1855 for the three.

Ring any bells, see https://www.townlands.ie/ for civil areas.

Pat

Thank you so much for taking the time to provide this information. Their first child, my great grandmother, was called Elizabeth Anne, so that ties in with the siblings. They had a habit of naming children after close relatives. I will certainly look further into it all. Their life in Lancashire was easy to track down, but Irish records are another matter. It would be lovely to get further back on the tree. My grandmother used to visit cousins in ireland, but being a child, I did not take enough interest to find out about them, unfortunately. 

Kay, there is no great mystery to Irish records, about 40% plus of Church of Ireland records were lost in the civil way of 1922, other records were lost in the attack on the Custom House in 1921 in the war of independence, lots of court records and such were lost.

The 1901 and the 1911 census are free on line and the next census in 1926 will be online in 5 years. Other than scraps previous census were lost, a lot pulped for paper in WW1 and others in the fire I think.

Free online is the civil BMDs from 1864 for all, also Protestant marriages were registered from 1845 and are also free online, see  https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ the churc records here are not complete but Dublin is and Cork and Kerry.

In the period 1848 to 1864 there is Griffiths Valuation which is a record of land owners and tenants and is free here, http://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ and between 1824 and 1838 owneres of 1 acre of land and up had to pay a church tax to the Established Church (Anglican or Church of Ireland) and you can see the names here, http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp There are also Catholic church records online but you need a date to search otherwise a long difficult read.

On the good news front, RIC records are kept in Kew in London, on enlisting there would be a letter of recommendation by some big wig where he lived (he would not be from Longford as the could not serve in their own county) I would recommend you join the excellent Facebook page Royal Irish Constabulary 1816 - 1922 A Forgotten Irish Police Force, the depth of knowledge there is amazing, just ask, also a contributor wrote the book History of the Royal Irish Constabulary. 

Once you locate the marriage and birth area you can see what other records may exist from the local library etc, land ownership, court appearances etc that may build a picture, you will find it very diffficult to get beyond 1830 or so but may be lucky as church of Ireland records can go into the 1700s in some cases, 

Good Luck

Pat