John Moran and Catherine Clyne

Hi

If you haven't already- you might try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64) http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) https://familysearch.org/ for these individuals & their relatives.

Do you know much about their emigration? The dates, the reason why they left, who they may have travelled with?..etc..Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, New York, etc.), this could be a good place to find more information. -And perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

One site that you might try:

 http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/ 

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My family has always believed that our Irish ancestors came to the U.S. during the great potatoe famine of the 1800's, but more recently we have discovered that a distatnt relative of ours, Alexander Moran, was in the U.S. as early as 1750. Alexander was a preacher and had a son who also became a preacher. This is all the information I have and I was hoping to discover more through this site. Any and all leads/info/advice are welcome. Thanks!

My family has always believed that our Irish ancestors came to the U.S. during the great potatoe famine of the 1800's, but more recently we have discovered that a distatnt relative of ours, Alexander Moran, was in the U.S., Jamestown Virginia to be exact, as early as 1750. Alexander was a preacher and had a son who also became a preacher. This is all the information I have and I was hoping to discover more through this site. Any and all leads/info/advice are welcome. Thanks!

Here I go again, I had this all written out and then hit  the back button to check something.  I hope I can find everything again.  There are a lot of Moran's that came over before, during and after the Great Famine.  I found an Alexander Moran in New York, one that was City Clerk on Long Island and was also in politics.  I found a couple in Indiana and they still have family there as there was an obituary for someone with a past Alexander Moran.

In Maryland, there is a Alexander Moran listed in the Federal  Census for 1810, 1820, 1830 but there isn't a key to explain the tick marks for each person.  It looks like he had a family.

In Virgina I found three people who may be Alexander Moran or related to him. 

1. There is a story about  The Old Stone Church - in the story - there is a Miss Purdy that married Rev. Moran but that is all it says about Rev.  Moran, and it lists other people who married ministers too.  It didn't mention too much in this piece on the Church, but you may be able to find more information about it and the churches in the area at the time.  The area is Elm Grove, Virginia but you may  find it referred to as part of Ohio - as it was part of the purchase that split Ohio from Connecticut and New York. It is also referred to as West Virginia.

Old Stone Church The Old Stone Church 1787-1907. by Mrs. W. E. Allen

(Explanatory Note. -- For information given in this article, the writer is indebted to Histories of Washington and Redstone Presbyteries; an article written by Prof. John Hervey, in 1876, and to interviews with aged members of the church.)

2.  In the Loudoun County Marriage records there is a marriage between Alexander Moran and a Vilinda C Brabham  on June 10, 1848.  The bond is secured by Frederick Brabham as listed in the bond but signed by Francis M Brabham.  Mary Brabham mother of the girl consented to the marriage.

3.  Also in  the Loudoun County Marriage records there is an Alexander Moran that attested to the groom's age in the marriage between Mary Catherine Moran daughter of Catherine Moran to Thomas Hevener.  Catherine Moran, mother of the bride consents to the marriage on 11 Sept 1845. 

4. I also found a Barbary Moran, a child of Lucretia and Alex  Moran baptism in the parish of St. Nicholas, Shepperton county of Surrey,  England on 18 Apr 1732.  

I don't have more time to spend on this but I hope this helps you find more clues to where he went when he came here.  There are more Alexander Moran's but they are out in Western, US 

Good luck, jane

Hi,  I am sorry i haven't responded to your efforts.  I don't know where to start using the Tithe Books or Griffith's?  Don't you need to know their county in Ireland and also more family members that stayed in IE.  In the 1880 census I did find a Catharine Moran - age 62 with a son John -age 25. I know my John Moran married Catherine Clyne in 1884 in New Haven CT.  I was able to find the written record on microfiche but it doesn't list parents, it lists the witnesses but I can't find anything about either of them. One is Anne Castigan and the other is John Cumer (sp?).  John and Catherine had 9 children but in 1910 only 5 were living.  They are Edward, Mary-1890, Joseph and Catherine Agnes - twins born in  Dec of 1898. I haven't found the fifth child.

My mother's mother died in 1923 at 32 of cancer and her father died in 1935 at 45 so history is not something in abundance. The 1880 census lists them Catherine Clyne and John Moran as born in Ireland and I can't find a 1870 census so I think it is possible they came over between 1870 and 1880.  The census says John was a horse shoer and in the 1883 and 1886 City Directory there is a John Moran with blacksmith as an occupation but they didn't list women unless they were widows and  I don't see his mother Catherine listed.  I will have to find older City Directories for New Haven, CT to see if she is listed in them.  By  the 1900 Census I can't find anyone in the family at all in the US  I can't imagine that Catherine had the money to go back to Ireland with 4 children and twins that were under 2 yrs of age. In the 1910 cenus, Catherine is back in New Haven with only the twins listed, I never find John Moran again. Except for one in an Almshouse. I did find a John Moran that died in 1918.  Her daughter Mary married in 1911 so she was probably out working somewhere. Edward isn't listed but reappears in the 1920 census where Catherine lists herself as a widow.  I have done a lot of research for my inlaws families and that was easy compared to this. Any ideas on where to go from here are appreciated.  I thought about trying to find the death certificate for John Moran but New Haven, CT  charges $20 each just for looking even if they don't find the person. 

Thank you for any ideas...