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Most records identify my great-great grandmother as Julia Mahoney (abt 1822 - 1885). Two documens -- the US birth certificate of a son and a US census -- indicate that her middle intitial was "A". Her February 1849 marriage record in Boston (church and civil) give names for her husband's parents but Julia's parents are not named there or in any record I have found.  I have found a 3 May 1826 ship's passenger list from Sunderland, England to New York identifying: Jeremiah Mahony, 29; Ann, 25; Julia Ann, 4 and John, 2.  The age/birth date would fit. Julia A may very well be Julia Ann.  And, the tradition Irish naming pattern also appears to apply -- Julia and Timothy's daughter, Ellen, my great-grandmother, named their first-born, my grandmother, Annie (first daughter named after mother's mother). The naming pattern was clearly known to the family -- Julia and Timothy named their first born son Daniel, after Timothy's father maned on the on his marriage certificate.  How much credence should I give to this ship record?  What other lines of research might I pursue?  I'm eage to receive any information, suggestions or advice.  Thank you!

Richard Burbach

Friday 18th Sep 2020, 03:11PM

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  • Richard, In irleand you are operating at the outer reachs of Irish church records and some parishes will not have records at that remove so everything is guesswork if you do not know parents etc

    Mahoney or Mahony is a common name normally found in sourthen Ireland and Munster in particular, there are about 6 Julia born in Ireland 1820 to 1824 and one is transcribed as Julia Anne, not always is the 2nd christain name transcribed, this lady was born in 1824 in Coachford, Cork, mother is Honora McCarthy and father is Michael, there is one other child a Michael in 1821 to this couple, searchd 1819 to 1829 so may be earlier children too. I used Roots Ireland a subscription site but a lot of Cork church records can be found here for free, few other counties though, https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ Civil records only start for all in 1864 and most are here too. Honora is Norah or Nora also.

    Church records are here but you need exact dates and parishes to search https://registers.nli.ie/ there is no name search facility.

    I do not understand why they would go via Sunderland as it is a trek to go there and on, when there are easier ports in Ireland and much nearer ones in England etc but maybe he was in the military or something.

    Mahony is maily found in West Munster, Cork and Kerry, my best man at my wedding was a Mahoney as it happens so the name is about!!!

    Good Luck

    Pat

     

    St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Thursday 15th Oct 2020, 09:02PM
  • Thank you, Pat. I sincerely appreciate your wisdom and generous efforts.  I, too, was wondering about Sutherland.  That Jeremiah Mahony is identified as a weaver on the passenger list so we can presume he was not in the military.  Two siblings and I have had our DNA tested with the hope we may find a Mahoney/Mahony match among the three of us. Thankfully, this research is more fascinating than frustrating -- so we carry on!  Again, thank you.

    Richard Burbach

    Friday 16th Oct 2020, 01:26PM

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