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Hello,

We are planning a trip to the Nenagh/Dromineer area in early January (2019) and would like to visit the place in Castlesheela from where our ancestors emigrated to the U.S. in the 1850's, find and visit the cemetery where our Kelly ancestors are buried, and learn whether there are living relatives in the area.  We're not sure any of this is possible, but if there is someone who guides these types of visits we'd appreciate his or her contact information.  I have lots of genealogical information to share with hopes of further discoveries. 

Thank you,

Shelley

shelwmsley

Friday 12th Oct 2018, 10:13PM

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  • Hi,
    Have you any Christian names of the Kelly people?
    There is One Kelly in 1823 in Monsea in the townland of Garranfadda, his name is Martin.
    In 1850's there are John, Denis and James in the area, these are listed in Griffiths Valuation.

    My Great Grandparents were from the area and are buried in Killoderrian.
    This is on the same road (R495) as Monsea, through Puckane and take a small lane, it is sign posted to the Old Church and Graveyard.
    There are little Graveyards/Burial grounds in the area from Nenagh up to Borrisokane. They could be burried in any one of these.

    Monsea Map.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=monsea+map&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=monsea+map&sc=7-10&sk=&cvid=60D8B44E12BF4F8F9903E6F91047C2EA

     Margot
     

    Margot

    Saturday 13th Oct 2018, 11:47AM
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    Hi Margot,

    Thank you for posting.  Our Kelly ancestors are as follows:

    Michael Kelly, b. 1796 in Nenagh parish to parents Denis Kelly and Mary Hogan

    Michael married Ellen (Eleanor) Flinn (b. around 1801) and by 1834 (likely earlier) they are living in Castlesheela, Dromineer, Monsea RC parish.

    I know of 8 children:

    • John A. Kelly, b. around 1831 (no baptism record found)
    • Margaret, b. around 1833 (no baptism record found)
    • Winifred, b. 1834
    • Catherine, b. 1836 (died 1844)
    • Martin, b. 1838 (died 1840)
    • John, b. 1843
    • Mary, b. 1844
    • Michael, b. 1846

    They emigrated to Lima, New York, USA around 1852.

    They appear on the Griffiths Valuation, which I will try to attach here.

    Shelley

    shelwmsley

    Sunday 14th Oct 2018, 01:19PM
  • Dear Shelly:

    Thank you for your post to the Ireland Reaching Out message board.  We have a very active volunteer with great local knowledge in that area and I have copied your post to her.  She will be in contact with you in the next week or two and you might be able to arrange to meet with her during your trip.

    If you have any further questions, please let me know.

     

    Kind regards,

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 15th Oct 2018, 09:13AM
  • Hi Shelly, thanks for the names etc.
    Have you used 
    https://registers.nli.ie

    You will see the Ireland map. The next Parish to Monsea is Terryglass, I have checked for the births and sorry they are not listed.
    The next is Nenagh, from 1792. a bit hard on the old eyes, so be careful.
    When you are in Ireland, sat nav. in cars, give the townland names, so it's a bit easier now.
    In the 1901 Census I noticed Kelly people in Monsea in a townland called Annaghbeg, their neighbours were my Great grandparents.
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    this info on the census tell you the list of house numbers
    House and Building Return (Form B1)
     
    I hope this helps.
    Margot

    Margot

    Monday 15th Oct 2018, 09:36AM
  • Thank you, Jane.  I really appreciate it.  

    Shelley

    shelwmsley

    Monday 15th Oct 2018, 10:25PM
  • Thanks, Margot, for that information.  I will check it out.  

    Best,
    Shelley

    shelwmsley

    Monday 15th Oct 2018, 10:33PM
  • Hi Shelley,

    I hope that I will be able to help- I’m a volunteer for Ireland Reaching out living in the parish of Monsea. I will be delighted to meet up with you in early January and guide you around the area. It will take me a couple of weeks to find out more information about which Kellys  you are related to- If you want to send me any relevant information to monsea@irelandxo.com it would be of great help

    All the best, Lulu

    Monsea Tipperary

    Tuesday 16th Oct 2018, 06:41AM
  • Thanks so much, Lulu!  This is wonderful.  I will put together my information and send it to you. 

    All the best,
    Shelley

    shelwmsley

    Tuesday 16th Oct 2018, 10:24AM

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