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Greetings to IrelandXO! As an adult in 1979 I heard, for the first time ever, stories from my grandfather’ sister, then age 85, about her four Irish immigrant grandparents … one of whom was Mary Togher (1828-1901). She recalled events at age 6 at her grandmother’s wake! Although I’ve filled in much of Mary’s story about her life in the United States, I‘ve learned nothing at all about her home in Ireland – which leads me to now to ‘ReachOut’ to Ireland.

A. Two years ago I was notified by MyHeritage that a DNA cousin by the name of Togher had been identified in Ireland! He said that his ancestors farmed in Cloonalaghan townland, Lackan Parish, Mayo as far back as the early 1800’s, and identified his grandfather as James Togher b.1863. Using available census and parish records, I have identified the parents of James as Patrick Togher and Ellen Loughney. My new cousin said that he heard family stories of an aunt of his grandfather (in other words, a sister of Patrick Togher) who left Lackan and settled in America. I’ve begun to go through available birth, marriage, death records for Lackan and surrounding parishes, but have not yet been able to identify the parents of Patrick Togher.

Q1: Was this aunt from the story, in fact, my gg-gm, Mary Togher? If true, then can the parents of Patrick Togher be identified in order to more firmly connect me to my new cousin?

B. According to family lore, Mary Togher was married in Ireland to John Rogan (1828?-1855?). Passenger records from 22 Feb 1849 indicate that a couple named John and Mary Rogan arrived in New York City on the ship Dewitt Clinton – assumed to be ‘my’ John and Mary Rogan. It appears that after returning to Ireland for a visit, they again arrived back at New York City on 16 Jan 1854 aboard the ship America with their three year old daughter, Mary Rogan. (This Mary Rogan was well-remembered in my family … my grandfather’s half-aunt.) This young Rogan family settled in Baltimore, Maryland where John Rogan died sometime in the mid 1850’s.

Q2: Can John Rogan’s parents be identified? [Note that Griffith’s Valuation (1856) lists an Ellen Rogan living in Cloonalaghan townland, not far from Patrick Togher.]

C. Family stories state that after her husband died, Mary Togher Rogan was invited by her husband’s relatives to visit them at their home in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, and it was there that she met the man who later became her 2nd husband, Cornelius Gahagan – also from Mayo. It appears that when they met, Cornelius Gahagan was most likely living with his brother and sister, both of whom were enumerated shortly thereafter in the 1860 US Census for Waukesha County, Wisconsin. In possible confirmation of this story, the same census lists a Cecily Rogan b.1785 living just four farms away from the Gahagan siblings … in the household of Patrick Grier b.1810 and his wife, Mary, b.1817. The exact relationship between Cecily on one hand and Patrick and / or Mary Grier on the other hand, remains unknown. In fact, one family tree suggests (without any support) that Mary Grier was born ‘Mary Rogan’. Ten years later the 1870 U.S. Census for Waukesha County clouds the issue when this same Cecily, still living with the Grier family, was called Cecily Grier, rather than Cecily Rogan.

Q3: Was the Ellen Rogan in Cloonalaghan in fact the mother of John Rogan? And what (if any) was the relationship between Ellen Rogan, Cecily Rogan, John Rogan, and this Grier family?

D. When John Rogan died in Baltimore, Mary Togher Rogan had no family near, so she took her two daughters to Clinton, Iowa to live with or near the family of her own sister, Catherine Togher, and Catherine’s husband, James Kilgallon (1817-1890). It was there that the marriage of Mary Togher Rogan and Cornelius Gahagan was later recorded in June 1859. Kilgallon descendants have remained in the Clinton area until WWII or later. Stories handed down indicate that sisters Mary and Catherine Togher were among 80 couples wed in a mass ceremony before they sailed to America. The young people had been brought together and given only a few days before the ceremony to decide on a potential mate. I’ve heard that one or more landlords paid for their tenants’ passage out of Ireland when they determined that transportation cost was less than the cost of relief for their tenants … part or all of which was provided from taxes levied on the landlords. Is it possible that a landlord arranged for such a marriage ceremony as a ‘benefit’ to entice young men and women to accept the offer of free passage to America … by helping them find a mate with whom they could start a new life across the sea?

Q4: Is there any historical evidence to suggest that such a ‘mass marriage’ event ever took place in north Mayo - or anywhere in Ireland?

Q5: Do Kilgallon/Kilcullen records exist in Lackan parish – or Killala diocese – that can help identify James Kilgallon or his birth family before he arrived in America?

In summary … Can anyone with roots in Lackan parish or Killala diocese help shed light on Mary Togher and her birth family; her first husband’s Rogan family; the Grier family (and Cecily Rogan/Grier); the Kilgallon family; and, ultimately, my new cousin’s Togher family?

Thanks for any information or suggestions!

DennyTO

Sunday 20th Mar 2022, 08:20AM

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    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 20th Mar 2022, 05:11PM
  • Hi Denny, I will reply later today with more information, but we are most likely related through Ellen Loughney.  I have a bit on the Togher-Loughney tree, which I can share as well. Best regards, John Loughney

     

     

     

     

    Kilcummin Mayo

    Sunday 20th Mar 2022, 05:24PM
  • Denny,

    There's a lot to comment on, but I don't know if I can get all of the answers.  First off, that area of North East County Mayo was an extremely impovrished area.  This is the area the French Landed in 1798 and led to a rising and the short lived Republic of Connacht before being brutally put down by General Cornwallis (same Cornwallis that George Washington defeated a decade earlier).  There was a Colera outbreak in the 1820s, and famine in the 1830s before the Great Hunger / potato famine (1845-1851), see: https://www.mayo.ie/getmedia/f7ba7bd8-7354-4353-8877-30d0e3dac099/The-F…; These all caused waves of emigration.

    I'm in tourch with someone descended from Patrick:

    8. Patrick Togher was born circa 1840. 

    9. Ellen Laughney was born circa 1835. 

    Patrick Togher and Ellen Laughney had the following children: 

    4 i. John Togher, born 2 May 1863, Derreens, Barnatra, Belummet, County Mayo,Ireland.

       ii. Martin Togher was born on 13 Dec 1870 in County Mayo,Ireland

       iii. Michael Togher

       iv. Catherine Togher

    You can find some information on Cloonalaghan.here: https://www.logainm.ie/en/34603 - my grandmother's side (ne Cunningham) were from Cashel townland (one townland away) and my Loughney's were from Kincon in Kilfian parish, which is also close.

    I will do some research and answer each question seperately.  You should also make sure you are searching on Togher, Tougher, Tagher, Taugher, Dooher, etc. as all are possible variations of the same names.  Many of the names will be recorded slightly differently as it depeneded on who was writing the record. At this time, most all of the people were Irish speakers and very few were proficient in English.  

    For question #1, there is a Bartly (Bartholomew) Taugher on the titles in Ballynaleck, Lackan: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625690/00…; - this would be next to Cloonalaghan, so likely related to Patrick.  The tithes were taken in the 1830s, so this would be one generation earlier.  I didn't see any possible matches on the Spinning Wheel list from 1796, see: https://www.failteromhat.com/flax/mayo.php - so unlikely you can get back any farther   

    For question #2, there is a Patrick Rogan living in Lissadrone on the tithes.  That there are Toghers, Loughneys and Rogans all living a stone's throw from each other, it is likely these are the people you are looking for.

    For question #3, that is going to answer from an Irish record point of view. If you can get more records from Wisconsin, maybe that could help.  Do you have Mary Rogan / Grier's death record? Does it list parents' names?

    For question #4, I've never heard of any mass marriage events.  I do know there were some assisted migration schemes later in the 1800s, but records are very scarce, so it will be hard to find out more.

    For question #5, you probably know but here are the Parish records, you should check the surrounding parishes just in case.

    The other records for the early 1880s are the Spinning Wheel list (1796) and TIthes (1815-1838)  I have gotten lucky using parish registers because some marriage records do list the father's name, and I was able to go back an additional generation by finding a sibling's marriage record.  For Kilcullen / Kilgallon families, there is one in Barnhill on Griffith's valuation: https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/mayo/lackan.php  - and don't forget to look at Kilcummin records as that was a separate parish but later included in the Civil Parish of Lackan.

    Hopefully some of this is of use.

    cheers,

    John

     

    Kilcummin Mayo

    Sunday 20th Mar 2022, 10:58PM
  • Denny-

    We are also researching the Rogans who lived in and around Waukesha/Dodge county area.  My husband's family are from Oconomowoc, Ashippun, and Lebanon- and their church was St Catherine's in Mapleton and later, St Jeromes in Oconomowoc.  I have come across the Rogans, Colemans, Griers.  We have a theory that Bridget Kearney Coleman (married to James Coleman) was a sister to my husband's GG Grandmother- Nancy Kearney Rogan (married to James Rogan).  Bridget had a daughter named Catherine Coleman Grier (married to Michael Grier).  Michael's parents were John Grier and Cecily Rogan Grier.  It seems Cecily was living with her son Michael and his family in at least 2 census records. It seems a bit odd to have the Rogan/Grier names so connected.   I'm a bit confused in teasing it all out as well.   We'd love to share notes if you see this.   Anne & Pete Rogan (rogan.pete@gmail.com)  

    rogan.pete

    Sunday 3rd Mar 2024, 03:48AM

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