On 10 Feb 1863 at the Church of St. Michael's in County Limerick Patrick Moloney and Johanna Fitzpatrick were married. By December of 1863 Patrick had arrived in Fremantle, Australia on board the Dalhousie which was carrying convicts and warders to the new colony. Patrick Moloney was listed as a Warder and a Private in the East India Company. By 1866 Johanna was also in Fremantle.
Their Limerick Marriage Record does not show the names of their parents, just that both were Roman Catholic and that it was witnessed by a Michael Stuart and a Patrick Da ..... [last part of name missing]. It is said that Patrick had earlier been involved somehow with the Constabulary in Ennis and later in Limerick though he was from County Clare.
Johanna died in 1877 in Fremantle after having several children with Patrick.
If anyone can add anything to the Irish side of the story of these two people (ancestors of my wife's) it would be appreciated. The trail from Australia just stops with the marriage in Limerick ... a marriage which actually marked the start of the line in Australia.
Regards,
Steve Flora, Canberra Australia
SteveBF
Thursday 9th May 2013, 10:47AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Steve,
Thank you for your message.
If the couple were married in St. Michael?s it is likely that was Johanna?s local parish church as generally weddings took place in the bride?s church. You could try looking in these records for her birth/baptismal certificate. Most Catholic records are held locally so you may need to write to the local parish priest for possible assistance. One website that you may find useful is the Irish Times where they give an overview of what records are available in specific parishes. It also shows you where copies of the records are available. For St. Michael?s parish, follow this link:
As you can see Limerick Genealogy have copies available. If you would like to contact them here is their email, however a fee may apply: research@limerickgenealogy.com
Have you already tried www.familysearch.org ? There are some records available there.
Have you tried looking up Patrick?s RIC record? Excellent personnel records were kept from 1816. These can be found at the UK National Archives here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-irish-constabulary.htm
There are microfilm copies at the National Archives of Ireland, The Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) and the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI). For each recruit it includes a brief service record, date of marriage and wife's native county, and the name of the individual who recommended him. This is important to identify an exact place of origin, because the recommendations usually came from local clergymen or magistrates who knew the recruit personally.
There is a book by Jim Herlihy called, The Royal Irish Constabulary: a complete alphabetical list of officers and men, 1816-1922, 1999. This supplies the Service Number needed to use the Registers quickly and easily.
You could also check for record of the family in the land records pertaining to Ireland in the 19th century. There are two:
The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-1838) found at http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
and Griffith?s Valuation (1848-1864) found at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Some other websites that you may find useful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/limerick/index.html
Ireland Genealogy Projects: http://www.countylimerickgenealogy.com/
Limerick Library: http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/
Limerick City Archives: http://www.limerickcity.ie/Archives/
I hope some of this is helpful and gets you started on your research.
All the best,
Genealogy Support
Emma Carty
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Emma,
Thank you for the input ... a lot of possibilities there .... currently trying a couple of different routes ....
Regards,
Steve.
SteveBF