Looking for the Barnes of Meath

James:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

First question would be the religion of John and Eliza. I did not find a civil marriage record for the couple at the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie  RC marriages were civilly registered starting in 1864. Non-RC marriages were civilly registered starting 1845. From 1845-1863, the site only has the index record. and as I indicated I did not find a civil record in the 1864-1870.

I also did not find a church marriage record on the subscription site Roots Ireland.

Roots Ireland had an 1833 baptismal record for a John Barns and also a record in 1851 which I discounted. I did not see an 1842 record but you have another source.

You won't find a ship departure record in Ireland. 

Can you find John's parents names from a death record or other source?

Roger McDonnell

Thank you so much Mr. McDonnell ! I was raised Catholic so I assume my GG father was also. I believe my GG fathers name was James and his wife were Margaret McGuire. No luck finding John's parents records. Since I am not certain if I have the correct John.

I am so thankful for your observations and help.

James S Barnes

  A correction my last post was not clear. From my research (I believe) my great grandfather John Barnes baptized in 1842 his parents were listed as James and Magt. McGuire. I have no other records of his parents. But I believe I found the correct John because his age and one of the witnesses at his baptism was named Comiskey, fast forward 50 plus years later my family had living with them a Comiskey. So, this is the link that gives me the assumption that it is the same John. Perhaps that is a little weak connection, I am not sure.

James:

My prior search on Roots Ireland was focused on Co. Meath and as it turns out the 1842 record was shown as Mount Nugent Co. Westmeath. Mountnugent parish covers area in Westmeath, Cavan and Meath and the parish register does not provide a name for the townland where they lived. The 1842 John Barns had an older sister Mary 1840, a younger sister Anne 1845 and a younger brother William in 1851. Are you aware of siblings to your John Barnes/Barns?

I  agree that the Comiskey connection makes sense.

Roger

Roger, thank you very much I was not aware of the additional family members. Also, I did not understand the geography. I feel a lot better about the Comiskey connection. Being a humble student of genealogy, I thought I might be on thin ice, so to speak. I feel a lot better that might be in fact my great grandfather of the 1870 USA census. I have some subscriptions ancestry, my Heritage. What recommendations can you make that might enable me to follow the leads of these addition family members of John Elizabeth migration to New York City?

Thanks again, I am very greatful.

Jim

Jim:

If you have the Ancestry World subscription, it gives you access to Irish church records. If you have the basic-- no access.  I just checked and there were no Barns/Barnes marriages in Mount Nugent parish for the three children: Mary, Anne and William. Death records were not available until 1864 so you can't tell if they died young, stayed in Ireland or emigrated. You could put there names iand date of births nto Ancestry and see if you get some info.

Roger

Thank you Roger.