Looking for the Mulvaneys / Mulvanys from Lurgan ?

Gerry:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I'm not from Lurgan but I did some checking on your family and found a few records of possible interest on Roots Ireland.

Bartholomew and Joan were married in Lurgan November 19, 1835. See transcription below. Looks like Joan was from Coragh. In addition to Patrick, there was a sister Margaret in 1836 and another child baptized in November 1840 but the name was obscured on the parish register.

Roger McDonnell

Date of Marriage:19-Nov-1835
Parish / District:LURGAN
County:Co. Cavan
Husband  BartholomewMulvanny
Wife JoanCahilAddress:Corah

Gerry,

I am the family historian in my family. My grandmother was a Mulvany of Moynalty parish, Co Meath. My Mulvanys orginally came from Mullagh parish Co Cavan pre 1821 mullagh census.

Mulvany/mulvaney is not a common name in Ireland nor do we know the original source of it . There are clusters of them in Cos Meath and Cavan, Cos Sligo and Mayo area and Dublin. I can trace mine back to late 1700s in mullagh and moynalty parish and then we run out of a papertrail.

Through autosomal DNA testing, I have very far out matches to mulvany desendants with links to maghera area of lurgan parish. That a few mile south of virginia town. I been up curraghmore and curraghkeel area. Its about the same distance north of the town between the Ballyjamesduff and Cavan main roads to virginia town. Very scenic, but definitely single lane traffic only.

This might be Patrick's father Bartholomew aged 10 on the 1821 Lurgan census in Curraghmore. Its the next townland (smallest postal adddress in rural Ireland) to Curraghkeel. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1821/Cavan/Lurgan/Coramore/… . The baptism address of Patrick siblings are curraghamore and curraghkeel.

There is a very old graveyard called I believe Lurgan near there. Beatuiful location. I walked it a few years back. I have no memory of a Mulvany headstone, but will visit it again when the weather improves in a few months time. I think they recently put it on igp co cavan website but called it Ballyjamesduff old http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cavan/photos/tombstones/1headsto… . Ballyjamesduff town and most the of road to the left from virginia to Ballyjamesduff is in castlerahan parish.

I'll do a bit more research and see if there is anything else online. Unfortunately, I have no local contact in virginia area and I dont know the families of the curraghkeel area either to ask questions off.

Catherine McCormack
E-mail: Moynalty@irelandxo.com

Hi Roger and Hi Catherine,

Thank you both very much for relying to my post.

I note the marriage date from Roger and that seems to fit with what I have got so far. I have uploaded the letter I received in 1993, (pre internet days!), from Cavan Genealogical Research Centre showing the birth date of Patrick Mulvany. It looks like he was born three years after Bartholomew and Joan were married. I have also uploaded the birth certificate extract and the original birth certificate of my grand father Owen Mulvaney, which shows that Patrick and Catherine Carroll were married in Cavan on Feb 16th 1860. I am not sure when or where the E in Mulvaney / Mulvany gets added but since Patrick signs the certificate with an "X" I assume that mispellings or omissions were not that important to him.

Catherine's comments are also very helpful. I can see that Currakeel and Curraghmore are adjacent in the maps from the Reserach Centre so it seems that Bartholomew is living in Curraghmore in 1821. We visited the area in 1994, after getting the letter from from the Research Centre. I can certainly confirm the single track roads !!

I was also following up in 1994 on a story that my Father used to tell at family gatherings. I thought the story rather far fetched at the time, but now I am not so sure. Apparently Bartholomew was a bit of a rebel and during one of the famines, at a gathering in Virginia, he took a pot shot at the local Landowner and was chased out of town. He apparently left the family and went to America to escape capture, where he opened a brewery in Wisconsin. As I say somewhat far fetched. When we arrived in Lurgan in 1994, I went to the local priest for help in tracing any Mulvaneys. He was new to the area and had no knowledge, but sent us to see a rather old resident in Currakeel. This man repeated my Father's story without much prompting from me and said that money was sent to the village for many years from America, right up to the early 1900s. He said that "Barty" was a known agitator in the area and always in trouble and it was no surprise that he had tried to shoot the landowner. How much of this story is myth and how much is fact I am not sure. I have not been able to verify it in any other way.

I am also interested in your comments on autosomal DNA testing and wonder how you went about this ? It would be good to know more about the process and the benefits.

Thank you both very much for taking the trouble to reply and for the information you have provided. I think another visit to Lurgan is on the cards in 2018. We are regular visitors to Ireland, usually taking a house over in Connemara for a couple of weeks in the Autumn each year, so we may need to make a diversion to find out more.

Warm regards from Nottingham.

Gerald Mulvaney

Hi Catherine!

Hope you are well!

Roger

Gerald:

I will let Catherine discuss autosomal DNA since she mentioned the test in her comments.

Roger

I also, am a Mulvaney, my 2nd great grandfather was John Mulvaney age 8 listed below, this is the only information I have on him from 1821 Ireland census.  I also attached the ship registry of when he came to the US in 1848.  He married a Marcella Morgan and also traveled in the ship with the Morgan’s from the same county Meath. So any information on them would also be appreciated.  

Patrick Morgan
Ireland Census, 1821 

Name: Patrick MorganEvent Type: CensusEvent Date: 1821Event Place: Navan, Meath, IrelandTownland: Kennastown County: MeathParish: NavanAge: 50Occupation: LabourerBirth Date: 1771Piece/Folio: 237 

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Patrick Morgan

50

Bridget Morgan

Wife

38

James Morgan

Son

15

Mathew Morgan

Son

4

Judith Morgan

Daughter

18

Bridget Morgan

Daughter

10

Mary Morgan

Daughter

7

Anne Morgan

Daughter

1

 Any information anyone could supply would be greatly appreciated. I live in Ohio in the U.S. and am finding it hard to research any further. Thank you.                                          Donna Flynn

Census Years1821CavanLurganCoramoreResidents of a house

Residents of a house 5 in Coramore (Lurgan, Cavan)

Surname    Forename    Age    Relation to head

Mulvany    Dominick    36    -    Farmer

Mulvany    Bridget    33    Wife    Spinner

Mulvany    Bartholomew    10    Son    -

Mulvany    John    8    Son    -

Mulvany    Patk    2    Son    -

Mulvany    Thomas    5    Son    -

Mulvany    Rose    14    Daughter    Spinner

Mulvany    Mary    12    Daughter