Looking for Sergeant Roderick Kane

Do you have any information showing when Roderick/Roger was born or died? What denomination was he?

If you think Ann Kane was born in the parish of Killowen (where she married) have you checked for her baptism? If RC the records are on-line on the nli site. If Church of Ireland the records start in 1829 and are in PRONI.

re Roderick - likely he was C of I but .....! Nancy applied for poor relief in Glasgow in 1877 and said both her parents were dead.   She was married in Killowen parish church (church of Ireland) - have visited church and got copies of some of their records but no sign of her birth.  Also tried Groni with no results there either.  As live in Scotland unable to visit Proni.

Thanks

If Nancy was married in 1871 then her birth won’t be in GRONI’s records as statutory birth registration only started in Ireland in 1864. She was obviously born before that. Prior to 1864 you need to rely on church records (not all of which have survived, and not all of which are on-line) and really to know which church she was baptised in.

The address on the 1871 marriage certificate was “Killowen parish” which is a bit odd. Usually there’s a specific townland given. Not sure why the Vicar just wrote that. There must have been something unusual about where she was staying. But it makes it harder to determine exactly where she may have lived. The Scottish Poor Relief records often give the parish of origin in Ireland. I assume these 1877 records don’t?

I searched for Roderick/Roger Kane deaths 1864 – 1877. There was a Roger Kane who died in Ballymoney in 1873 aged 84. He was about the only possible death of someone of potentially the right age and general location. If your man died before 1864 there won’t be a statutory record. If Church of Ireland you might find his burial record, but again they are not on-line and not all have survived. And you need to know where he died or was buried.

Thanks Elwyn.  Interesting re marriage certificate address!  In Poor Relief record only says she was born in Ireland/Coleraine.  I found on the Coleraine Chronicle that there was a Mrs Kane who was Matron of the Workhouse - might be a coincidence (know it's a popular name!) but, if she was the mother, could be why the Vicar recorded it that way?  Also, if Roderick was a soldier, maybe there were barracks in Coleraine.  I did find something in the Coleraine Chronicle (20/7/1850) about 'The Local Pensioners'  - "the clean and orderly appearance of the company was highly creditable to Major Stewart (Stuart in 1854 edition) and Sergeant Kane.

Nancy had a child (Sarah) baptised in 1867 - transpired (according to baptism record) not to her future husband Robert but (?brother) James who was a Publican (from Glasgow) in Coleraine!  Nancy's address at that time was Killowen Street, Waterside, Killowen (from e records but not very clear on baptism record).  She came back to Coleraine in 1874 to have her 3rd child (second to Robert) as he was in the jail (second offence!) for wife beating (while she was pregnant!!!) - no wonder she went back to Ireland - presumably to her mother - but luckily she didn't stay as otherwise I wouldn't be here!!

Annie,

Well if Nancy was Church of Ireland and from Coleraine, you might find her baptism (and that of any siblings) in the church records. Baptisms & marriages for Coleraine COI start in 1769. I don’t think they are on-line anywhere but there is a copy in PRONI in Belfast.

Kane (and O’Kane) is a very common name in Co. Londonderry. The O’Cahans – as it was originally spelled - were the main tribe that occupied that area and there are thousands of them.  (The 1831 census has 1219 in the county).

I had a look at the Valuation Revision records (a bit like the Scottish Valuation records) which are on the PRONI site. I looked at North Ramparts, Coleraine for 1874 to 1884 but didn’t see a Kane household. However several of the properties were marked “lodgers” so Nancy may well have been staying there.

I looked for a Rodger/Roderick Kane in the 1831 census. None in Coleraine. There were 2 others in the county. Both RC, and in Drumachose and Tamlaght Finlaggan, parishes some distance away from Coleraine.

39 Kanes & O'Kanes in Coleraine in the 1901 census.

I noticed that a Roderick Kane married Margaret Wilson on 12.12.1864 in Coleraine. On the basis that families often repeat names, you might want to look at that to see if there’s any connection to your family. That couple had a daughter on 26th July 1866. Father (Roddy Kane) was a labourer and the address was Killowen, so I think that might be your family.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

Thanks Elwyn - appreciate you taking the time to try to find more info for me.  When I visited the church, we did find the records re roderick/Margaret Paul but nothing concrete to evidence same person.  It's strange that there's no death for him or Nancy's mother but have now added Nancy to the Coleraine group so who know what met come out of that!  

If you need any searches of the Scottish records let me know!!