Maria Charlotte Moore Stenson

Hi,

Vere Hunt Stenson was from Limerick according to Irish Genealogy and his wife Maria Moore was recorded as Clonbrassil Street, Dublin. www.rootsireland.ie has a Maria Moore born 29th May, 1860 in Clonsilla, Co. Dublin. Parents: William Moore and Maria Byrne who are recorded as Roman Catholic. Have you any information on Maria's parents.

Regards,

Thank you for the report. I have very little information on Maria's parents. Anything you can share would be appreciated.

Hi,

You might confirm that the father of Vere Hunt Stenson was the Rev. John Ormsby Stenson of Cecil Street, Limerick.  Vere Hunt Stenson married on April 10th 1888 in Dublin. His address - 23, Upper Cecil Street, Limerick. His father is recorded in the record as "John Ormsby Stenson, Clergyman". There is a Reverend John Ormsby Stenson, Clerk of Cecil Street, Limerick who made a will in favour of his wife - Maria Stenson - on November 29th 1862. Reverend Stenson is recorded as having died on April 23rd 1870. His wife - Maria - died on October 10th 1871. The beneficiary of her will was her daughter Annabella Young, wife of William John Young of Brunswick Street, Limerick, Mineral Water Manufacturer. The Solicitor for the Reverend John Ormsby Stenson was Michael Sellors, Limerick.

There is a birth record for a "Maria Charlotte Stenson" who was born on January 18th 1889 at 2, Victoria Terrace, Limerick. Parents: Vere Hunt Stenson and Maria Moore. It appears that Vere Hunt Stenson's second wife was Maria and not "Maria Charlotte"?

Maria Moore's father is recorded as William Moore, Land Agent. Nothing to connect with him. The address for Maria Moore at the date of marriage was 10, Upper Clanbrassil Street, Dublin. The Witness for her was an "Edward Berry" and for her husband Edward Herbert Stenson.

You will need to consult with relatives and try and ascertain what they know in relation to your family.

Best Wishes,

Hi,

In relation to Maria Charlotte Moore, the 1901 Census of Ireland records her as being 42 years of age and was born in Limerick. There are a number of persons born in County Limerick in that period named "Maria Moore". None are recorded as the father being "William Moore" and are Roman Catholic.  www.rootsireland.ie  have a record of a "Maria Moore" born on August 21st 1857 and baptised in St. Michael's Church on September 12th 1857. Religion - Church of Ireland. Her parents are not named.

The Vere Hunt Stenson address in the census is Shannon Street, Limerick.

The following are also recorded: Vere H. Stenson, Head of Family - 44 years. Birth Place: Limerick; Raymond: Birth year 1895, Limerick, Bella 1881, Limerick, Georgina 1883, Chicago, Vera 1889, Limerick, Rosina 1893, Limerick.

It is likely that the Maria Moore born in 1857 in Limerick is the wife of Vere Hunt Stenson?

Regards,

Thank you again for the research. I am afraid that you have found the same inconsistencies that I found. I cannot determine whether the Maria Charlotte Moore born in Dublin in 1860 or the the Maria Moore born in Limerick in 1857 is my great-grandmother. The other information you found correlates with what I know. 

My great-grandfather, Vere H. Stenson, was married once before. His first wife died in 1884. 

The Stensons were active in the Church of Ireland. Do you think it is less likely that Vere married a Catholic? Would that be a clue that my great-grandmother was the one born in Limerick?

Thanks.

Bill

Hi Bill,

I would be enclined to favour Maria Moore who as born in Limerick in 1857. There were a number of men named "WIlliam Moore" in the Limerick region in that period. If Maria Moore was from Dublin I feel she would more than likely have moved back to Dublin following the death of her husband to be with family members. The 1911 census shows her in South Circular Road. Edward Herbert Stenson gave an address in Dublin when he married. Vere Hunt Stenson does not appear to have settled to any particular occupation.

Regards,

Hi Bill,

While researching archive newspapers, I came across the following:

Marriage - Stenson and Moore - April 10th at St. Luke's Church, by the Rev John D. Smylie, MA. Vere Hunt, son of the late Rev John Ormsby Stenson MA, to Maria, youngest daughter of the late Wm. Moore, both of Limerick.

The article is in the Waterford Mirror newspaper dated April 19th 1888.

Credit: www.britishnewspaperarchives.co.uk

In relation to Alice Mary Moore, the Dean of St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick, kindly checked the records for 1857 in St. Michael's Church and confirmed that the date of her birth was 20th July, 1857 and the date of baptism as 21st August, 1857. There is no other "Alice Mary Moore" recorded.

Parents: William Harley Moore, Clerk and Mary Elizabeth, Richmond Terrace, Limerick.

In the 1901 census of Ireland there is a Mary Elizabeth Moore at North Strand, Limerick.

Regards,

Mr. McCoy,

Thank  you for the further information on my great-grandmother, Maria Charlotte Moore. However, I was confused by the second part of your entry:

In relation to Alice Mary Moore, the Dean of St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick, kindly checked the records for 1857 in St. Michael's Church and confirmed that the date of her birth was 20th July, 1857 and the date of baptism as 21st August, 1857. There is no other "Alice Mary Moore" recorded.

Parents: William Harley Moore, Clerk and Mary Elizabeth, Richmond Terrace, Limerick.

In the 1901 census of Ireland there is a Mary Elizabeth Moore at North Strand, Limerick.

Do you believe this is the same person?

Thanks,

Bill

Hi Bill,

In Roots Ireland record there were two persons named "Alice Mary Moore" in July 1857.  One record had no parents recorded. I had this checked and found that it was an error. 

I have since found out on Google that Alice Mary Moore died in the USA. Google: "Alice Mary Moore Chamberlin" for details.

This shows that we still do not know the identity of the "Maria Moore" who married Vere Hunt Stenson.

There is a Genealogy Centre in Limerick which I suggest you consider employing to research this Maria Moore. They will be able to check school records for a "Maria Moore" born c1857 in Limerick, based on 1901 and 1911 census.

Marriage record show her father - William  Moore - was deceased.

Limerick Genealogy: www.limerickgenealogy.ie

Best Wishes,

Hi Bill,

Vere Hunt Stenson married his first wife - Margaret Hanrahan - In St.Michael's Roman Catholic church in Limerick city on 23rd February 1878. Her father is recorded as Matthew Hanrahan, Pilot (River Pilot). Address for both is Henry Street, Limerick. Now the question is, was Maria Moore also a Roman Catholic?

Credit: www.irishgenealogy.ie

Regards,

Mr. McCoy, my great-grandmother's religion is in question. I have a copy of a baptismal certificate that indicates she was baptized at St. Michaels, and a wedding in Dublin at Church of the Union (Church of Ireland). (Both of these were obtained by my mother when she visited Ireland in the mid-1980s.) I am attaching them for your reference.

Thanks again for all you are doing.

Bill

Hi Bill,

This certificate is St. Michael's Church of Ireland, Limerick.

Robert Augustus Maunsell was the beneficiary of the will of Charles Thomas Maunsell of George Street, Limerick in 1859 (Proved by his Oath on 9th January, 1859)

I have details on the family of Vere Hunt and Margaret Hanrahan which I will post later.

Regards,

Hi Bill,

I have sent a copy of the baptism certificate of Maria Moore to the Dean at St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick to see if there is any more detail on the church record. I will let you know his response.

In regard to "Maria Charlotte Stenson", according to the records in St. Michael's Church of Ireland, Limerick, she was baptised there on the 28th January,1889. Her birth date 18th Janaury, 1889. Her sister Rosina baptised there in 1892.

Stenson-Hanrahan:

Margaret Hanrahan appears to be the daughter of Matthew Hanrahan and Mary Scanlan who married in St. Mary's Roman Catholic church, Limerick on the 30th September 1844. She would appear to be the "Margaret" who was baptised there on the 15th June, 1848.

Birth: 22nd February, 1880 - Maria Annabella Stenson - 2, Military Road, Limerick. Father: Vere Stenson, Accountant - Mother: Margaret Stenson, formerly Hanrahan.

Deaths:

18th August, 1884 - Margaret Stenson - St. Alphonsus Place, Limerick, aged 5 moths. Certified daughter of Vere Stenson. Death notified by Nora Leech, Aunt.

7th September 1884 - Margaret Stenson - St. Alphonsus Place, Limerick. Wife of Vere Stenson. Death notified by Nora Leech, Sister.

Nora Leech was Honora Hanrahan who married Thomas Leech, Engineer, both of Henry Street, Limerick who married in St. Michael's Roman Catholic church, Limerick in 1874.

I have not found any Roman Catholic baptism records for the Stenson- Hanrahan family, so I assume they were baptised as Church of Ireland.

Credits: www.rootsireland.ie and www.irishgenealogy.ie

Regards,

Hi Bill,

I have received a reply from the office of the Dean of St. Mary's, Limerick. It says as follows:

"I have found the entry from the cert. you sent. It is rather squashed into the end of the page in the register and out of sequence date wise. There are no parents recorded or address. The Rev. Maunsell's name is not recorded on any other baptism, so I wonder was it a private or emergency baptism."

Regards,