I'm searching for earlier generations of Robert Patrick McArdle, baptised 15 Nov 1830 in Newry, died 11 June 1881 in Dundalk, buried in plot 430a of Castletown Old Graveyard Dundalk. He married Margaret Mary Callan on 25 Mar 1856 in St. Patrick's Church Dundalk, and had 9 children (Edward, John, Robert, Mary Anne, James, Patrick, Peter, Joseph, and Teresa). Margaret Mary Callan was born aroung 1831 in Dundalk, died 27 October 1909 in Dundalk. Parents are believed to be Patrick McArdle and Margaret Quinn from Newry. Robert is believed to have one brother Patrick (Patt) McArdle baptised 13 Mar 1828 in Newry. Patrick married Margaret Quinn 16 Apr 1858 in Lordship, and had five children (Bridget, Patrick, Peter, Mary Anne and James). I'm trying to link this family with older generations of McArdle's buried in plot 430 in Castletown Old Graveyard which include James McArdle (b 1682, d 20 Nov 1711), Edward McArdle (b 1698, d 12 Apr 1778, Phillip McArdle (b 1703, d 26 May 1781) and Ellinor McArdle (b 1711, d 1 May 1787). All four born and died in County Armagh per Find a Grave. Father of these four is Patrick McArdle of Forkhill.
Jack McArdle
Monday 4th Feb 2019, 11:41AMMessage Board Replies
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Hello Jack, I am afraid your query is outside most available records that I am aware of, at this remove prior to say 1800 the only church records available are Church of Ireland and a large proportion of these were lost in the attack on the Four Courts in 1922, the defenders had placed their muntions in the Public record Office and it received a direct artillary hit.
The available RC church records are here but if available can be at tricky read. https://registers.nli.ie/ I checked 3 parishes in the area of north Dundalk and the earliest records are 1838, later for the others.
The Church of Ireland list of records are here https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/catalogues/parish-re…
Such things as the Registry of Deeds are putting records on line slowly but again I think late 1700s is the best and it was not compulsory initially. There are records of wills but no actual wills to my knowledge until the later 1800s.
There is a site here about Louth but mainly lists of people and McArdle is a name found in that area so you could not pick your own out even it a townlan is given it is a leap of faith.
http://www.jbhall.freeservers.com/ There are also various Faceboook private pages on genealogy but can be patchy depending on how soon the query is seen before it goes down the page.
You may wish to consider a professional genealogist and a list is on the site of the National Library, they would normally scope the work and quote a price if they think the can find something, but pre 1800 in Ireland is considerably difficult unless there is a court record or something made any newspaper of the time/.
https://www.nli.ie/en/commission-research.aspx
Sorry the news is not better, there are also some good County Down sites and the library in Dundalk are helpful but if there are no records thats it.
https://www.louthcoco.ie/en/services/library/reference-local-history-li…
Regards
Pat
St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer
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Thank you for the reply. I will be coming to Dundalk for a couple days in June. Would the library in Dundalk be the best place to research more, or do you have other suggestions while I am there. While there, I plan to go to the Castletown Graveyard to see if there might be more information. I did previously hire Hibernian Genealogy to find the parents and sibling of Robert McArdle which they were successful at doing. I was thinking I might be able to find the remaining links myself if I spend a couple of days in Dundalk.
Thanks again
Jack
Jack McArdle
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Hi Jack, the Dundalk library is the main research library in the county and the archives are also in Dundalk, you can see the resources online for both under the Louth County Council site but an advance email might assist you. The County Louth Arch. & History Society have been producing journals since 1904 and some have listed graveyards however I do not see one for Castletown but then I do not have the full set which is behind a paywall at JStor but cheap I think, the British Newspaper Archive also has the largest collection of Irish newspapers for historical reasons.
Enjoy your stay and I wish you good luck except in the Euromillions as that is reserved for me!!!.
Feel free if you want any more info I live in Drogheda about 23 miles away so am aware of local transport etc
Pat
St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer
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Attached FilesMcArdle Crest.jpg (143.44 KB)McArdle Crest Gaelic.jpg (155.43 KB)
Thank you very much. One more question. I found a family crest which I have attached. There is a Gaelic inscription on the bottom which I have enlarged in the second picture attached. Do you know what this inscription means? Does anything on the crest mean anything to you?
Thanks again for your help.
Jack
Jack McArdle
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HI Jack, my Gaelige is not up to the job but I have emailed it to a friend of mine who is a native speaker so await a reply, it appears to be something about a fist and the last word is a black something I imagine a bird but thats a pure guess from the picture.
I looked up McLysaghts Surnames of Ireland and McArdle is an anglicised version of a an Irish name meaning, wait for it "High Valour" and is the sept (Gaelic Clan in Irleand) is part of the McMahons in the Oriel which is North Louth and Monaghan East as they join. McMahon is I believe the first ever surname in Ireland.
Will return when I hear back.
Pat
St Peters Louth, IrelandXO Volunteer
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Yes, that is interesting. When I compared our family crest to others on the internet, it matched a crest of the McMahon's. The gaelic on the McMahon crest was very similar but slightly different. I think it was translated as the fist of the dark blooded. Thanks for your help.
Jack McArdle
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Jack, just posted a item relating to Patt McArdle who lived in Galway in 1863. I don't suppose you have any information on him?
Very interested in the crest information as well. Thanks for sharing.