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Adding to the helpful information from Castlemore Roscommon - a few years ago....And further research I have found the following:
Michael Cleary's parents:Thomas Cleary married Elizabeth D'arcy in Collinstown Jan 1827 - she wasn't Cleary as listed on each baptism record. (I noticed that whoever made the entries didn't list any Maiden names for the mothers)
Michael Cleary & Anne Langan's residence was listed as 3 Gildhart's Gardens, Liverpool on their Marriage Cert. (May 1857)
Griffith's Valuation shows an Eliza Cleary, who I think is Michael's mother, in the Townland of Collinstown + a Michael Cleary in another house in Collinstown. No Thomas listed but he may have died as Eliza's Death Registration (1871) lists that she died at Collinstown and she was a widow.
I'm currently looking at more D'arcy & possibly Byrne connections with the Cleary family. I have strong DNA matches with Byrne's from Co Wicklow. 
I hope to add more information to Anne Langan who is listed separately.

As we are travelling to Ireland in May, I'd love to discover a bit more before we arrive, so I'd appreciate any information about the Clearys and Collinstown, Co Kildare and the surrounding area.

Thanks,
Maureen 

scullinaus

Thursday 15th Feb 2024, 02:23AM

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  • Hi Maureen -

    This information may have already been given.  Thomas (b. 1839) and Patrick (b. 1829) were born to Thomas and Elizabeth Cleary.  I also show a son, John Cleary, born 8 Sep 1834 to Thomas Cleary and Bess Cleary in Collinstown, Kildare.  Bess, of course, is a familiar form of Elizabeth.  The sponsors for this birth are John Byrne and Bridget Byrne.  My guess is that is why you are interested in the Byrne family.

    If I can give you additional information on this family, please let me know.  But in the meantime, if you would like to have a local volunteer meet you in May when you are in Ireland, please submit the form attached form.  https://www.irelandxo.com/meet-and-greet  You would be amazed what the local volunteers know about your ancestral place.  There is nothing like walking in the shoes of your ancestors.

    Best regards,

    Marsha

    Marsha, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Monday 19th Feb 2024, 03:55PM
  • Hello Marsha,

    I appreciate you taking the time to check out my Cleary line.

    While I did have John Cleary’s 1834 baptism with John & Brigid Byrne as witnesses, it’s only recently I’ve started looking into a Byrne connection.

    The main reasons I’m looking at the Darcy/Byrne link are as follows:

    I knew Michael Cleary and Anne Langan were married in Liverpool, 1857 - from Birth Certificates from Australia. A DNA match shared Michael & Anne’s UK Marriage Cert. with me. The witnesses were Patrick McDonough and Eliza Darcy ( aunt/ mother/ cousin?)

    Re the possible Byrne connection: As well as Byrne witnesses at John Cleary’s baptism, I have quite a few Ancestry DNA matches with people who share Byrne family originating in Baltinglass, Co Wexford.

    I have only found one baptism for an Eliza Darcy, born 1809, to Michael Darcy & Bridget Darcy (no maiden names listed) at Baltinglass, Wicklow & Kildare. Then it gets pretty “hazy” as some matches claim Bridget Darcy’s maiden name may have been Byrne , but no concrete evidence yet…..

    It’s quite tantalising finding the DNA Byrne matches but I can’t find any Darcy matches to link Byrne to Cleary - which is where I started.

    I would love to find out more.

    And I will most certainly follow the link to see if I can meet a volunteer while we are in Ireland- at the moment we are still planning our trip but I’ll be in touch very soon. Thanks again for your help and I hope you can make sense of all this!

    Cheers, Maureen

    scullinaus

    Wednesday 21st Feb 2024, 10:55AM
  • A local volunteer would be happy to schedule a meeting with you and your family in Ireland when you are there.  While it is not a "tour", they will have information that you will be able to include in your searching.  These are people who live in the area and the information is invaluable.  

    I hope you will have a lovely time in May!

    Marsha

    Marsha, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Wednesday 21st Feb 2024, 08:07PM

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