Molloy family from Rahan parish

Hi there,

You might already be aware of these records, but I will let you know of the details anyway just in case.

There are Roman Catholic church records available for the diocese of Rahan and Lynally (Meath). These date from 1810 for both baptismal and marriage records. You can find these at the National Library of Ireland, Pos. 4174. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for more assistance.

Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

You can check the following for possible information about Margaret's brother, the priest.

Maynooth students and ordinations index, 1795-1895 (Patrick J. Hamell Birr, Co. Offaly) 1992.

Carlow College, Carlow (J McEvoy, Carlow) 1993.

The Irish Catholic Directory was published annually from 1836 and lists priests by diocese and parish.

You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38). Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS).

Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

Kind regards,

Sinead Cooney

Genealogist (Ireland XO)

barbara you mention a daniel molloy married to anne mooney 

1814 november baptism of margaret molloy 

the only reference i have to a daniel molloy is the following 

lease dated 1866 april 23rd

kilgortin part of parishes of rahan and kilbride barony of ballycowan king county now county offaly

tenants name daniel molloy

yearly rent £10 pounds s 13 shillings d 8 pence     gale days 1st may and 1st november 

quantity of lands statute measure 16 acres 2 rood 22 perch

now barbara 1814-1866= 42 years plus the age he was when margaret was born 

dont know if this helps you barbara or not     

William,  I was taking a class on Irish genealogy last fall.  The instructor was talking about using Irish newspapers for clues. He had several slide of articles that he had found and he was going through them when this one appeared.  At the break I asked If I could get a copy of it.  I don't know how big Rahan parish would have been in 1778, I don't have very much on the history of this branch of the family.  

Freeman’s Journal 16 July 1778

Page 3, column 1 No. 5877

Whereas on an Inquest held before Archibald Armstrong, esq; one of the Coroners of the King’s Co. on the 19th Day of June last, the Jury found that Mathew Moll[o]y (sic) of Rahan, was willfully murdered by the several Persons undernamed who have absconded, to wit.

Martin Minogue, of Ballyna, a swarthy black haired pockmarked short Fellow, about 25 years of age.

Mathew Minogue, a squart Fellow, about 20 years of Age.

Thomas Minogue, a squat Fellow, about 22 years of Age.

Terence Minogue, a squat black haired Man, 20 years of Age

John Anderson the younger, of the Island of Clonkeen, Apprentice to a Carpenter, fair Complexion, 19 years of Age.

John Bermingham of the same, fair complexion, about 23 years of Age, about 5 Feet 4 Inches high.

Lawrence Malone, of the same, a short Fellow, black haired, pockmarked, 21 years old.

Patrick Logan of the same, a squat Fellow, 29 years of Age, brown Complexion, his Hair trimmed round.

Daniel Mollov (sic) of the same, a Carpenter by Trade, about 30 years of Age, 5 Feet 9 inches high, dark Complexion

A Reward of  FIVE GUINEAS will be paid for apprehending each of said Persons, and lodging him or them in any Goal in this Kingdom by Ferdinand Molloy (sic), of Rahan, Brother of the deceased: or by Mary Molloy, at Mr. Reynold’s in Ash-street, Dublin. July 2d 1778.

I have several pages of information that I got at the County Offaly History Center in Tullamore in 1990. They are Neville and Molly baptism records, and one page of Catholic marriage records. Are they letting you use the parish records for this project? 

Barbara

barbara thats some story 

i have not heard of the minougues must be strangers to the area 

but the berminghams and malones and molloys these are local families

hope matthew is not on your family tree !!!!

personally im not dealing with offaly history centre

i believe the parish records are on micro film in national library dublin but i cannot confirm same  

 my documents are a different source from these 

if i find any other documents that may be of assistance to you barbara i will be in contact 

Would you like a copy of what I have.  I know it is not much, but there are several families listed.

Barbara

Would you like a copy of what I have.  I know it is not much, but there are several families (Molloy and Neville) listed.

Barbara

Hi All,

You can view what catholic parish registers there are for Rahan (and where they are kept) at http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Offaly&CityCounty=Offaly&parish=Rahan-and-Lynally&churchid=956

You could also try contacting the local parish offices at http://www.rahanparish.ie/parish_contacts.html for more assistance. 

all the best.

Thank you for the information.  I found a lot of history on the Rahan parish link that you sent. I am still looking for a brother of Margaret Molloy who was a priest. Our family oral tradition is that he saw the family off when they got on the boat to leave Ireland.

I have been to the parish, but I have not done any research at the National Library in Dublin.  I live in Kansas City Missouri USA.

Thank you so much, Barbara

barbara just re reading your message and i am searching for some different information from your query  

daniel molloy married annie mooney 

1814 nov baptised in rahan margaret molloy 

searching for brothers or sisters but in particular a brother who became a priest  name of the brother or any other molloy relatives 

1841 joseph born to margaret molloy and abraham neville 

1843 mary born to mm and an 

1844 anna bridget born mm and an 

1847 john born mm and an 

1850 june margaret marries abraham neville they lived in lynally glebe  

1853 william born mm and an    any date or month    they had 5 children in ireland before they left for america 

???? year to be confirmed margarets brother the priest accompanied abraham and margaret to the boat when they left ireland he saw the family off when they got on the boat to leave ireland

barbara do you have any idea what boat it was that made the crossing from what port in ireland and what year they travelled and what month they arrived in new york america ???  

1855 sarah jane born albany new york state  any month or date 

1859 twins born quebec canada hubert and margaret 

two more born canada 

1873 an died in york nebraska 

1905 mmn died in nebraska 

barbara i was in a library recently and happened to come across a book on maynooth students ordinations and in it was the following documented record      plus from your own records 

john molloy meath matriculated 25/8/1836 25th august 1836 studied logic number 6277 

and 

peter molloy meath 1/9/1849 1st september 1849 studied humanities number 6281

1853 william born margaret molloy and abraham neville they had 5 children in ireland before they left for america 

???? year to be confirmed margarets brother the priest accompanied abraham and margaret to the boat when they left ireland he saw the family off when they got on the boat to leave ireland 

barbara do you have any idea what boat it was that made the crossing

from what port in ireland and

what year they travelled and 

what month they arrived in new york america  

1855 sarah jane born albany new york state any date or month   

i believe rahan was in the meath diocese

you would have to contact maynooth to see if they have the address and parents name of the above students 

hope it is of assistance to your search 

always remembering that your molloy may not have been ordained in maynooth 

I have very little to go on.  The only document is the Naturalization papers for Joseph Neville (1841-1915).  I know the family sailed from Liverpool about 1854. When asked what was the name of the boat...Joseph said "too young - don't remember"!

William Neville was born 12 May 1853 in Ireland and Sarah Jane Neville was born in New York 12 Feb 1855.  James Edward Neville was born in Quebec Canada 22 Jan 1857, the twins Hugh and Margaret were born in Canada in 1959.  

They left one son behind - John, who is my great-grandfather. John came over about 18 years later. 

I have the Burlington & Missouri river Rail Road - applications for land for the family in York County Nebraska

Mar 20 1874, Joseph Neville - native of Tullamore, King Co. Ireland - last residence- Fort Howard Wisconson, lenght of time in America 21 years 160 Acres @ $7/per acre

Mar 20 1874- Margaret Neville - native of Tullamore, Kings county Ireland- last residence- Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 24 years - 80 acres @$7 per acre

Mar 20 1874 - John Neville- native of Tullamore, Kings Co, Ireland last residence Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 10 years 159 acres @ $5 per acre

April 17 1874 - William & Joseph Neville, native of Tullamore, Kings Co. -last residence Fort Howard WI- Length of time in America 20 years - in Nebraska 30 days, 320 acres @ $7 per acre.

I just called my father to check on land prices in York NE....he said the latest that he knows of the land is going for about $8,000/acre.  

So they vary on length of time in America! The birth of the children gives a window of time.

Barbara

I have very little to go on.  The only document is the Naturalization papers for Joseph Neville (1841-1915).  I know the family sailed from Liverpool about 1854. When asked what was the name of the boat...Joseph said "too young - don't remember"!

William Neville was born 12 May 1853 in Ireland and Sarah Jane Neville was born in New York 12 Feb 1855.  James Edward Neville was born in Quebec Canada 22 Jan 1857, the twins Hugh and Margaret were born in Canada in 1959.  

They left one son behind - John, who is my great-grandfather. John came over about 18 years later. 

I have the Burlington & Missouri river Rail Road - applications for land for the family in York County Nebraska

Mar 20 1874, Joseph Neville - native of Tullamore, King Co. Ireland - last residence- Fort Howard Wisconson, lenght of time in America 21 years 160 Acres @ $7/per acre

Mar 20 1874- Margaret Neville - native of Tullamore, Kings county Ireland- last residence- Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 24 years - 80 acres @$7 per acre

Mar 20 1874 - John Neville- native of Tullamore, Kings Co, Ireland last residence Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 10 years 159 acres @ $5 per acre

April 17 1874 - William & Joseph Neville, native of Tullamore, Kings Co. -last residence Fort Howard WI- Length of time in America 20 years - in Nebraska 30 days, 320 acres @ $7 per acre.

I just called my father to check on land prices in York NE....he said the latest that he knows of the land is going for about $8,000/acre.  

So they vary on length of time in America! The birth of the children gives a window of time.

Barbara

I have very little to go on.  The only document is the Naturalization papers for Joseph Neville (1841-1915).  I know the family sailed from Liverpool about 1854. When asked what was the name of the boat...Joseph said "too young - don't remember"!

William Neville was born 12 May 1853 in Ireland and Sarah Jane Neville was born in New York 12 Feb 1855.  James Edward Neville was born in Quebec Canada 22 Jan 1857, the twins Hugh and Margaret were born in Canada in 1959.  

They left one son behind - John, who is my great-grandfather. John came over about 18 years later. 

I have the Burlington & Missouri river Rail Road - applications for land for the family in York County Nebraska

Mar 20 1874, Joseph Neville - native of Tullamore, King Co. Ireland - last residence- Fort Howard Wisconson, lenght of time in America 21 years 160 Acres @ $7/per acre

Mar 20 1874- Margaret Neville - native of Tullamore, Kings county Ireland- last residence- Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 24 years - 80 acres @$7 per acre

Mar 20 1874 - John Neville- native of Tullamore, Kings Co, Ireland last residence Fort Howard WI, length of time in America 10 years 159 acres @ $5 per acre

April 17 1874 - William & Joseph Neville, native of Tullamore, Kings Co. -last residence Fort Howard WI- Length of time in America 20 years - in Nebraska 30 days, 320 acres @ $7 per acre.

I just called my father to check on land prices in York NE....he said the latest that he knows of the land is going for about $8,000/acre.  

So they vary on length of time in America! The birth of the children gives a window of time.

Barbara

This is great news.  Is Rev. Peter Molloy buried in Ballymore?

Barbara

barbara 

            i dont know 

i dont even know where ballymore is 

barbara on searching the archives and spending the enormous sum of six euros i found the following death certificate on file

superintendents district athlone registrars district moate 1883 deaths registered in the district of moate in the union of athlone in the county of westmeath no 161 date 1883 twenty seventh july place of death ??moy??oughly?? name and surname peter molloy sex male condition bachelor age last birthday 52 years rank profession or occupation roman catholic parish priest of ballymore certified cause of death and duration of illness valcular disease of heart one year ?????inaswrea mhusrink??? six months certified signature qualification and residence of informant michael carroll his x mark present at death ???moyonyhly??? when registered twenty second september 1883 signature of registrar e o longeran assistant registrar

looks like you will have to go to the parish of ballymore in county westmeath to get more information to confirm or deny that this peter is a relative of yours or not  and to discover where ??moy??oughly is good luck  

Oh, I am ready to go!  

I am in Nebraska right now.  My father is turning 88 on Halloween!  One of my greatest moments was taking my parents to Ireland.  We stayed at the Rahan Lodge and met the cousins!  My dad looks so much like the Neville's.  We were at Rahan church and a lady asked dad if he was there for the Neville wedding.  I collect photos of the family.  I have a photo of Margaret Molloy Neville and all of her children.  John was killed in a train accident in 1903.  He left Margaret with 9 children age 3 to 20.

Dear Mr ? Duinn,

               Thank you for your email of October 7th last enquiring about Father Molloy.  I’m sorry to report that we do not have any family records for this period. 

              A student by the name of Peter Molloy, date of birth September 1830, from the parish of Rahan entered St. Patrick’s College on September 1st1849.  This student was ordained in 1855 and first served in Mullingar parish.  Fr. Molly’s last ministry was as Parish Priest in Ballymore where he commenced duties in 1879.  He died on April 27th 1883.

               I hope the foregoing is of some use to you in your research. 

We are happy to assist with enquiries of this nature, however they can be quite time consuming.  If you would consider making a small donation of €10 towards the administration costs of the College Archives it would be most appreciated.

Yours sincerely,

Cora Hennelly  saint patricks college of maynooth kildare

barbara if this priest is a relation then 

1930 september birth of peter molloy rahan

1849 september 1st peter molloy aged 19 entered st patricks college

margarets brother the priest accompanied abraham neville and margaret to the boat

1854 about neville family sailed from liverpool 

1855 father peter molloy ordained and first served mullingar parish 

1879 father peter molloy parish priest in ballymore 

1883 april 27th father peter molloy died 

barbara 

before you get ready to go-what i meant was go to

the black border on top of this page

choose find your parish 

choose leinster

choose county of westmeath

choose parish of ballymore ireland reaching out

and check if anyone knows peters molloys correspondence or papers

showing where he originated from and confirm that he belongs to your side of the family --slan tamall   

barbara

i have just discovered thsi site irish genalogy by the irish government minister for arts and if you do a search in 

last name put in your details and apply the search 

go to 4th down on the list griffith valuation and refine your search

add in details for   

family name and first name 

county -----------kings county 

union ------------tullamore 

parish -----------rahan 

search and when the list of names comes up 

go to details column find the molloy you are looking for 

scroll to the end of the page 

and add any details for user contribution 

and now u will have two avenues of enquiry 

Hello 

Did you ever get sorted with the records

Geraldine

geraldines what records 

Thank you,  I have some of the Molloy figured out.  I did notice I had a typo - Maragret Molloy married Abe Neville in 1840.  They went to Liverpool in 1850 and left for New York. I have had better luck with the Neville side of the family.  I discovered that William Nevill who moved to Lynally Glebe and was listed in the 1802 Church of Ireland census - his grandfather William Nevill had a deed # 77504 in Mountmellick dated June of 1742.  This William Nevill was a Quaker and those records are now on Find My Past.     I also have a genealogy that several families that are related did.  It has names and generations but not dates.  This was done about 1995.  I just keep working on the families.     Barbara