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would anyone have any information about my mother born Katleen Mary Murnane in Pallasgreen 1st September 1918 any living relatives or friends i have very little information about her birth and history 

thank you

Dave Martin 

Dave

Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 10:59AM

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  • Dave:

    If I have the correct record, your mother was born September 1 1914 to Timothy Marnane and Bridget Wilde. They lived in Coolnapisha townland in Doon civil parish close to Pallasgrean. Her parents were married in 1905 and she had at least four older siblings. See records below including 1911 census. Let me know if you have any questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    See eighth record  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    See ninth record for Edmond 1910

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    See ninth record Timothy 1907

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    See first record Mary 1908

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    See ninth record William 1912

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    See third record parents married in November 1905

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    1911 census   http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Grean/Coolnap…

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 01:04PM
  • Thank you Roger

    ThIs certainly looks like Katie  might be my mother she had a brother timmothy her fathers name and one of my half sisters is Bridget her mothers name too many coincidences she always believed her surnmae was murnane and se was born in 1918 but this is too conincidental

    what im trying to do is apply for an irish passport to become europen and retire abroad My mother Katie on the records before my father married someone with the surname Carey

    they had three children my half siblings Dennis Pete, Bridget Veronica, and Roseanne, i need to be able confirm that Katie is my mother by tracing my half siblings back to me David Graham Martin the only son of David Wilaim Martin her second husband my searches have come up with  nothing i hope you can find somthing in your records 

    thank you so  much 

    David G Martin 

    Dave

    Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 01:41PM
  • There also seems to a descrepancey with the surname Murnane on the record and also Nurnane  AND YOU HAVE SAID Marnane this is important for the passport application to trace the birth certificate

    Dave

    Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 02:05PM
  • Dave:

    You will need the full certificate of birth.   Costs 20 euros. 

    Roger

     https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/regist….

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 04:14PM
  • Will the full certificate of birth also include her first marriage though? i have enough records of my mother thnaks to you  to apply for a pasport but it doesnt trace it back to me proving iim her son its a dilemma

     

    Dave

    Saturday 2nd Jul 2022, 06:52PM
  • Also another way of tracing the line to me ,do you have records of MARRIAGES David Willaim Martin to KATIE oR KATHERINE  she would have been Carey or changed banck to Murnane i was born in 1958 David Graham Martin my searches just keep hiiting a brick walll you have been so heplful so far thank you

    Dave

    Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 12:11PM
  • SORRY Roger KATHLEEN not KATHRINE my mother always was called KATHLEEN ALL HER LIFE  WHICH WAS ANOTHER SUPRISE FOR ME WHEN I SAW HER NAME  LISTED AS Katie on her birth records

    Dave

    Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 05:59PM
  • Dave:

    The full birth certificate will not have her first marriage.

    Here is the 1934 marriage record to Jeremiah Carey

    See fourth record  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    We only have access to marriage records thru 1946 and I'm guessing the second marriage to David Martin was after 1946? 

    You will need to ask the General Register Office to look for the marriage to David Martin.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 07:37PM
  • Thats fantastic Roger . the last thing i have to ask is do you have  records of my two half  sisters births Roaseanne Carey and Bridget Veronica to Jerimia Carey and my Mother and a contact for the Irish general registar office you have been more than helpful and i can't thank you enough 

    Dave

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 08:18AM
  • And Dennis Peter Carey my half brother

    Dave

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 08:21AM
  • I don't have enough information for the General Register office dont know when they were married or where posibly Limerick, more brick walls 

    Dave

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 11:58AM
  • if you could supply the details of my half siblings that my mother had with Jerimiah Carey that wiould complete my puzzle 

    Dave

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 04:22PM
  • Dave:

    Civil birth records at the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie are only available thru 1921 due to a 100 year Irish privacy rule. Marriages go thru 1946 because the rule is 75 years and deaths go thru 1971 because the rule is only 50 years.

    See this link for getting a full birth record  https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/birth_family_relationships/regist…

    Roger

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 04:30PM

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