Hello! My husband's great grandmother Mary Hannigan married (don't have name-- will say given name is X) and had 2 children John and Michael. Michael fits mother's father. According to naming convention, the first born was named after the father's father, so we know X's father was named X. X died (assumed) and Mary married my husband's great grandfather Timothy Early/Hawley ( I do not know the names of his parents or siblings if he had any). They went on to have 4 boys. Their first son (Timothy's first, but Mary's third) Daniel was born in 1866 and died probably 3 years later. Question #1: Can I assume that Daniel is the name of Timothy's father, even though the "father's father" had already been used with Mary's first marriage? Timothy and Mary had another son, William James in 1868. Question #2: Since the name of the mother's father was already used (with Mary's 2nd son from her first marriage), can I assume that William is Timothy's eldest brother? The third son, Daniel was born in 1869, so we know the first child of Timothy and Mary had died and they reused the name. Their 4th son (but third living), named Timothy was born in 1871. This appears to follow the naming convention. Thank you for your advice!
Judy Orr Hawley
Friday 10th May 2024, 12:52AMMessage Board Replies
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Judy:
The naming convention was not followed in all families exactly.
It is likely that Timothy's father was Daniel but I would be less assured that William was the eldest brother of Timothy.
Did these events occur in Ireland? Possibly we can find church records that would confirm your information.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Friday 10th May 2024, 03:21PM -
Hi Roger. Thanks for your thoughts. I have no information in Ireland. Per Timothy's obit, he came to the USA in 1849 or thereabouts. The earliest record I have for him is a land purchase in 1855 in Wisconsin, USA. I cannot definitively find his naturalization papers nor can I find his passenger ship list. I have yet to find any siblings, either through regular genealogical research or through DNA matches. His obit said he came from County Clare but DNA matches come overwhelming from Counties Cork and Kerry. I am working hard to build out trees of matches that appear to be Timothy's line, trying to find a link to Timothy. Another factor to be considered is his surname. I can just imagine a person with a thick Irish brogue saying his surname. Timothy died as Hawley, aka Early, but his church records and census records list Herly, Henley, Healy, Hally, Hawley and Earley. Our son did his YDNA (111 markers) and 3 names show up-- Donovan, Dennehy and Donoghue, so it appears there was a name change somewhere along the way. Any additional thoughts based on this additional information?
Judy Orr Hawley
Saturday 11th May 2024, 02:08AM