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Hello I am having on elast try at finding any info. re Marriage childrens births or specific townland 

Patrick Quinn and Mary Ryan had 3 children in Tipperary or maybe elsewhere even . Their third child ...Thomas was born 1858 in Tipperary before they came to South  Australia the same year.  Previous to that they had Edmond/Edward , about 1852 and Bridget 1857........I have only found Thomas birth  in catholic registers,but does not give a townland, it only says ....Tipperary, Tipperary. Would this mean he was born somewhere in the town of Tipperary itself?

Any thoughts /advice much appreciated 

Goldie

Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 03:37AM

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  • Goldie:

    The church would have been in the town of Tipperary but it is possible that the Quinns lived outside the town in one of the surrounding townlands. I also searched on FindMyPast and did not see the baptismal records for the two older siblings. They may have been married in another parish which does not have records for the 1850s. I also did not find a marriage record.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 12:29PM
  • Hi Goldie,
    you say............
    I have only found Thomas birth  in catholic registers,but does not give a townland, it only says ....Tipperary, Tipperary. 

    To save me looking through all the pages for that year can you post the picture or the link where you found this...........Or say the month in 1858.
    Thanks

    Margot

    Margot

    Sunday 3rd Jul 2022, 01:08PM
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    Thankyou very much Margot and Roger for your replies....every little piece of info is a great help.Enclosing the page from the Cathloic register where I found Thomas,s birth 

    Were there many catholic churces in Tipperary town itself around 1850?   Just wondering if any church may hold any more information regards the family ?

    Many Thanks   ....Goldie

     

     

     

    Goldie

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 06:21AM
  • In Griffiths Valuation there is one Patrick Quinn in Tipperary Town, this is in 1851.
    Griffith's Valuation (askaboutireland.ie)

    the townland stated in GV is Carrownreddy.
    If you zoom into this map it's the road that St Michael's Church is on.  
    More than Likely the road was renamed.

    Carrownreddy Townland, Co. Tipperary (townlands.ie)

    Margot

     

    Margot

    Monday 4th Jul 2022, 03:56PM
  • Thankyou so much for going to the trouble for me.   I am going to claim the Patrick Quinn named in the GV and living in Carrownreddy as "mine" All seems to fit as he is the only one by that name  around that time , and when they arrived in  South Australia ,its stated Tipperary, Tipperary.  Maybe they had moved from elsewhere when earliest children were born, but after 25 years of searching have not been able to find their births or a marriage .  On one birth here in Australia the mother,s name is given as Margaret Ryan instead of Mary Ann, but I always thought that was a misprint, maybe she changed her name somewhere along the line ....Probably never know for sure 

    Thanks again. Best Wishe    Goldie

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Goldie

    Wednesday 6th Jul 2022, 03:12AM
  • Goldie,
    You say............
     when they arrived in  South Australia ,its stated Tipperary, Tipperary.  Maybe they had moved from elsewhere when earliest children were born.

    On the map I sent you it highlights Carrownreddy, it's part of Tipperary Town,  Carrownreddy is like ...............in Neighbours  Pin Oak Court, Vermont South, Melbourne.
    Their address would have been,  Nelson Street, Carrownreddy, Tipperary Town, County Tipperary.
    Margot

     

    Margot

    Thursday 7th Jul 2022, 10:45AM
  • Thank you Margot.....I  actually had  them as living in Nelson Street Tipperary Town many years ago ,but was not certain , but with your help I can see that is more than likely ,and its fascinating to pin point their exact spot.    As you say the earlier children were probably born elsewhere, especially as I have not been able to find a marriage for parents in Tipperary  Town . They came to Sth Aust in 1858 and a few years later built a house which still stands today, with of course modifications 

    I will now try to find a marriage etc. ....It never ends !!

    Goldie

    Sunday 10th Jul 2022, 06:24AM
  • The house that they bulit, did it have a name?

    Margot

    Margot

    Sunday 10th Jul 2022, 10:53AM
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    Hi Margot.....No the house they built did not have any name on it , pity  as that might have left a clue of sorts.  Sending picture  of the house ,all around the area are very expensive homes now ,only short distance from Adelaide City area. Also sending piece from a local newspaper of the death of Patrick and Mary Quinn,s son Thomas with some interesting facts, however after much searching I have not found any reference to this story in Irish or English papers.   Cheers  Goldie

     

    Goldie

    Wednesday 13th Jul 2022, 03:48AM
  • Thanks Goldie for the records.
    Is the "L" in both sons names Leo?
    I have seen their trees.
    I will look for shipwrecks.

    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 13th Jul 2022, 10:48AM
  • Hi Marot....Yes the "L" in the son,s names is Leo, and I do have a fair anountof info. of Thomas Quinn,s family in Sth Australia

    I have never found  any thing about a shipwreck , thought maybe it was on the ship they left Ireland on to get to Liverpool, but 

    have searched for anything pertaining to that also . Of course they were all british subjects back then,so no records exist for arriving in England

    Still with your help I am happy to now to be confident that I have found where they lived in Tipperary Town , at least in 1858

    Such a pity about all the records lost in Dublin fire .

    Best wishes    Goldie

    Goldie

    Friday 15th Jul 2022, 11:06PM

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