Hi,
I have come to a complete standstill.
I am looking to find the parents of my ancestor Mathew Hayes who was born about 1802 in Carrigatoher, Tipperary and died in Nenagh in 1864.
His spouse was Ellen Berkery who died in Youghal, Nenagh in 1870.
Their children are;
Mary born 1831
Michael born 1834
Mathew born 1837
Matthew born 1839
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Regards
Bruce Hayes
Bruce Hayes
Wednesday 15th Apr 2020, 12:54AMMessage Board Replies
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Attached FilesHAYES Mathew ..Ellen (Berkey).png (54.22 KB)Hayes Ellen d.1870 Nenagh..png (65.31 KB)MARY 1831. Nenagh..png (56.27 KB)MICHAEL . . 1834..png (70.17 KB)MATHEW. . 1837..png (57.21 KB)
Hi Bruce . . .
Welcome to Ireland reaching Out . . . and Tipperary . . .
I began my search . . using " Roots " (paid) . . . for
Mathew Hayes . . b.1802 Tipperary . +/- 5 years . . . Nothing . . .
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0804
If you have the time and the patience . . the above site leads you to Nenagh R.C. Parish records . . . for those years . . .
again . . . I searched for the BIRTH . . of Ellen Berkey . . . b. ??? 1800 . . . Nenagh . . +/- 10+++
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Next I searched for a MARRIAGE . . of BOTH . . . 1830 . . . Tipperary . . . +/- 10 years . . and FOUND . . (see below)
( witnesses to this marriage were . . . John Ryan and Bryan Farrell ) . . Brides name spelling . . . is prob. a misspelling of Berkey ( this is a common Tipp. surname )
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DEATH . . of ELLEN . . is 1874 ..Nenagh . . . ( see below ) . . . note . . 1874 . . 67 y.o. . . . . BORN 1807
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Next I searched for the DEATH of Mathew Hayes . . . who died 1864 . . . Nenagh . . NO record . . .
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I went back to BIRTH . . of Ellen in 1807 Nenagh . . . NO record . . .
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MARY 1831 . . . (see below )
MICHAEL 1834 . . (see below )
MATHEW . . 1837 (below)
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There is a TAX roll for the period 1823 - 1837 . . . hundreds of Hayes . . . Tipperary
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NEXT . . . another TAX roll . . . GRIFFITHS . . . 1847 - 1864 . . HAYES ..Youughalarra . . . showing . . .
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BRUCE . . . I hope some of the above is useful . . . to your continued searching . . . Best I could do . . .
I should tell you there is a Professional Search available . . in NENAGH . . ( Paid svce. . . not cheap )
https://www.tipperarycoco.ie/heritage/genealogy-centre
Cheers . . . Eamonn.
Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️
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Thanks Eamonn you are a legend
Regards
Bruce
Bruce Hayes
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Eamonn,
The baptisms from Aug 1797 to Feb 1809 are missing from this link https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0804 do you have any suggestions. I am sorry to be a pain but I am new at this as I am taking over from my daughter
Thanks again
Bruce
Bruce Hayes
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Attached FilesHAYES Mortimor 1901 Youghalarra.png (396.21 KB)Pallas More MAP.png (146.82 KB)
Hi Bruce . . again . . . .
First off . . I couldn't understand your problem . . . until I decided to go thru the search . . . year by year . . myself
and then I saw your problem . . .
YES . . . the years 1997 to 1809 are missing . . . (as often happens . . . with old records ) UNFORTUNATELY . . .
This is why . . when we search . . . Roots / Ancestry . . . we are NOT finding . . the Birth of your Mathew Hayes / Ellen Berkey c.1802 - 1807 . .
Sorry for your troubles . . . BUT . . .
I even doubt . . if the Professionels at . . . https://www.tipperarycoco.ie/heritage/genealogy-centre can be of help to you . . as they are researching thru. same sources . .
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When I go to the records of " Youghalarra " . . . their Register ONLY starts recording BIRTHS . . . in 1828 . . (see below)
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0759
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish-records-what-is-available/graveyards
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634769#page/1/mode/1up
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish-records-what-is-available/civil-records
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Nenagh_East_Urban/Silver_Street/1697694/
SO . . . I wondered if any Berkey's . . . were still in the area in the Census of 1901 . . . and as you will see (above) . . only TWO of that Surname . . John & Thomas show up . . .
I did a little better with HAYES in 1901 (see Below)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_More/1700157/
This Mortimer (unusual Christian name) Hayes . . . may very well be . . . related . . because he shows up as a Farm-hand . . on a Farm in Pallas More (YOUGHALARRA)
(see MAP below)
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Again Bruce . . . NO further joy . . . but do research all the above . . . . .
and . . usefully . . . you might enlist the help of the National School in Youghalarra . . .
Schools here are all shut up . . . most likely . . until September . . .
Cheers . . . Eamonn.
Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️
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Mate you are worth your weight in gold.
Thanks again
Bruce
Bruce Hayes