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I'm looking for what order of priest would Fr. O'Sullivan be in the baptism of Thomas Fenton, 13 Aug 1833 at Kilfinnane Catholic Church:  https://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000634905_010  

Here it looks like G.O.S. N.P.  Elsewehere on the page I see Sullivan written in place of the S.  I can't tell if the letters after his name are N P, N L, V P or what exactly.  I'm not familair with any order of priests that this might be.  Could it be V and be Vicar?  Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Patsy

pcoleman

Monday 7th Jun 2021, 01:37PM

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  • VP means Vice Pastor which in today's lingo is CC or Catholic Curate. So Fr O'Sullivan would have been the local curate in 1833

    John17

    Monday 7th Jun 2021, 07:53PM
  • Hello Patsy,

    The name of the child in the baptism record is Thomas Fenerty, or perhaps Finerty. But, reading further in the baptism record, you’ll find Thomas’s godmother was Honora Finton. The first name of the godfather is hard to decipher, but it may be Martin. His last name looks like O’Brien. He may be the brother of Thomas’s mother, Johanna.

    The way I read the Latin in the baptism record is:

    Bap a me G.O.S. V.P. Thomas filium legitimum…

    The Latin filium legitimum means, "legitimate child or son." The initials V.P. stand for Vicario Parocho.

    Translation: “Baptized by me, G.O.S. (perhaps “George” O’Sullivan) Vicar Parochial, Thomas, legitimate child or son of Timotheum Fenerty and Joahanna O’Brien…

    Another translation: "I, G.O.S. (George O’Sullivan), Parochial Vicar, baptized Thomas, legitimate child or son of Timothy Fenerty/Finerty and Joahanna O’Brien…"

    In the Catholic hierarchy of the diocesan priesthood, the vicar was a grade below the parish priest of the church. In other words the vicar would be akin to the deputy parish priest in the Catholic Church.

    Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Monday 7th Jun 2021, 07:54PM
  • Dear John17 and Dave,   

    Thank you both for your reply.  That explains perfectly what I was looking for.

    Patsy

    pcoleman

    Tuesday 8th Jun 2021, 01:50PM
  • You're welcome Patsy.

    Best Wishes,

    Dave

    davepat

    Tuesday 8th Jun 2021, 06:34PM

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