Redmond Hanlon

Lesa:

The subscription site Roots Ireland has a March 25 1841 baptismal record for a Redmond Hanlon in the Leighlinbride RC parish in Co. Carlow with father Daniel Hanlon and mother Bridget MacDonald. There were no Co. Tipperary baptismal records for a Redmond Hanlon around 1840.

Roger McDonnell

Hi Lesa,
You say you have the record for Ellen's Baptism....can you send the link please.
This is March 1841 and I cannot see her.
02481/01, Monsea - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
From the Tithe records looks like the Hogans lived in Bellum, which is a townland in the Parish of Monsea.
The Martin's also lived in that area.

Also, you say..........
The origin location was Newmarket, County Tipperary Ireland. 
Can you send that document please.  I don't know of a Newmarket in Tipperary. There are a couple in other counties.

This is from a ship list..............is this your Ellen Hogan?

HOGAN Ellen 1862 19 Clonoulty xx Left from Ballycummins xx Paid for by Martin Maher . Ship = Lady Milton

Thanks Roger Redmond had a daughter named Bridget so may be if that is him he named his daughter after his mother.

Hi Margo as for the Newmarket thing I just read that on the New South Wales Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists Record Index

I don't know if it is indeed my Ellen Hogan but the dates and her age at the time all add up.

Hi Margo sorry but it was 1st December for the baptism of Ellen Hogan not March.

Thank you, I see it now.
Where the sponsors are named........the last word in Bellum.
That is were they lived.
Note the male sponsor was William Maher same surname as the Martin Maher on the ship record.
Margot

Yes I see that I also have ancestors named Maher on the other side of my family

Is there anything you can find on Catherine Martain and John Hogan like maybe a marriage record?

I have put Daniel Hanlon and Bridget McDonald in my ancestry tree as the parents of Redmond , so lets see if I get any hints

Thanks so much for your help

There is a Matth Martin in Monsea in 1825.

The Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-37 (nationalarchives.ie)
There are other Martin's in the area of Kilbarron.

1848 and 1850 there is a John Martin in Monsea.  Townland of Tullamore.
Griffith's Valuation (askaboutireland.ie)

Are you in Ancestry or Find my Past?
Spell Martain as martin and see if you get more info.
I have had a look around for BDM in the area and next place Martin names show is in a place called Grange.
Let me know if you get a hint for Redmond.
Margot

Hi Margot, I have and update. This information changes things!!

I have obtained the marriage certificate of Redmond and Ellen , so have more accurate information. It states that the parents of Redmond are Redmond Hanlon (farmer) and Mary Byrne. The  birth place was (writing very hard to read) Ballion Killou?? Carlow Ireland.

Information for Ellen states her father John Hogan was a farmer and her mother was Margaret Levehan? Leueham?or could be Lenehan? The informant on the death register was the grandson of Ellen so looks like he got it wrong when he said her mother was Catherine Martin.

Martin Maher was the sponsor for Ellen to come to Australia. At the time of marriage 3 November 1867 ages at their last birthday were Redmond 28 and Ellen 26. Their place of residence was Cressbrook and occupations were Raymond a labourer and Ellen a servant. Maybe Martin Maher had a property or station and they were both working there. I'm still looking in to that.

I'm hoping this information may help in finding something concrete in Ireland

Many thanks

Lesa

Hi Lesa,

Ballon, County Carlow - Bing Maps

You say............
I have obtained the marriage certificate of Redmond and Ellen , so have more accurate information. It states that the parents of Redmond are Redmond Hanlon (farmer) and Mary Byrne. The  birth place was (writing very hard to read) Ballion Killou?? Carlow Ireland.
Can you send the copy please. OR  was it under Tullow and maybe the year of the marriage.

Thank

Margot
 

Hi Margot I am having trouble uploading the cetificate. I now have been talking with another decendant of Ellen and she says the area Ellen came from was Lorrha Tipperary.

Hi Lesa,
Can you email please, see below..................with the documents you have. 
There are two John Hogan's in Lorrha in Griffiths valuation, one in the townland of Redwood and the other in the townland Curraghglass.
These townlands are next to each other so it may only be one John Hogan, this is 1852.
Do you know of any siblings?
Thanks
Margot
marg2ade@yahoo.co.uk