Samuel Bailey, died in Monaghan Asylum, 1882

Hi,

I would think that the Bailey family must have had some sort of connection to the Monaghan area - I cant think of why he would have been sent there other than some sort of connection as there were a number of hospitals and asylums in Dublin city so could easily have been sent after his medical problem. Asylums were often attached to the Workhouse and shared facilities with these, e.g. infirmaries kitchens etc, and the Asylum at Monaghan town was beside the Workhouse, although the railway was constructed between.

The administrative area for the workhouse was the Poor Law Union and generally only people born in the associated area could be admitted. In the case of Monaghan Poor Law Union parts of 12 civil parishes were included...my suspicion is that Samuel's family originated somewhere in one of these parishes.

The civil parishes included in the poor law union of Monaghan  were :

Aghabog, Clones, Clontibret, Donagh, Drumsnat, Errigal Trough, Killeevan, Kilmore, Monaghan, Tedavnet, Tehallan and Tullycorbet.

A search of Griffith's Valuation shows a possible match for Samuel's father in one of these parishes - a Thomas Bailey at Mullaghbane townland in Donagh parish. A number of other Bailey/Baily properties are shown in the county on the valuation - nearly 40 in all.

The later c1890 OSI maps show a Catholic Church and also another church on the grounds of the Asylum - but no sign of any graveyards marked on the maps.

Due to the registry office marriage I think it's most likely that Samuel was Church of Ireland, or at least not Catholic, the Church of Ireland Church for Monaghan parish is located in the Monaghan town and this has a small graveyard attached. The records for the parish go back to 1802 and include burials, so would be worth checking  - according to the latest RCB list the historic registers are still held by the parish, there appears to be some coverage of these as transcripts on RootsIreland. I checked these and did not see any sign of a burial for Samuel.

The situation regarding headstone would depend on several factors - e.g. financial circumstances, location of the burial etc. The family may not have been well off, but with the business and lease of premises in a major Dublin street I would think would have been able to cover at least some costs for a burial and maybe a headstone... if there were any relatives in the area maybe there was a family plot ?

There are several websites noting headstone  transcripts, e.g. IGP Monaghan, but these are not complete. (seems to be some sort of problem with this site at the moment...)

I'll update here with the availability of the other parishes in the area....

Hi Shane, Wonderful to hear from you and thank you for this new information.  It would really be something if I was lucky enough to find a family plot in Monaghan. Anyway, there is lots here for me to digest!  John and I hope you are doing well. -Seán

The IGP website I mentioned is back online after their server upgrade, no sign of a burial for Samuel at the moment but worth checking back as they update the photos and transcripts as volunteers carry out further surveys. (I've add a couple of collections over the last while, mostly counties Dublin and Wicklow).

I've also checked for possible civil deaths of Samuel's father on IrishGenealogy, without much luck - no matching deaths in Monaghan district, just three between 1864 and 1901 in adjacent districts - Clones, Cootehill and Castleblayney, all with ages that could fit with being Samuel's father. Images are not available online for any of these yet, but should be added during the net update.. I'll keep an eye put for any possible matches...

Regarding the records for the Church of Ireland parishes I mentioned - historic records for two of the parishes are noted as lost, not great coverage at the moment for the others online at the moment, just some partial records as transcripts on RootsIreland.  RCBL = Representative Church Body Library, Co. Dublin, PRONI = Public Records Office of Northern Ireland, Belfast

Monaghan town - records in local custody b.m.d/b 1802

Aghabog  - lost *

Clones  (part Co. Fermanagh) RCBL b.m. d/b 1682 also PRONI *

Clontibret - earlier records lost

Donagh - local custody b. m. d/b 1796*

Drumsnat - RCBL b 1796, m 1797, d/b 1796 *

Errigal Trough - local custody b. 1809 m. 1803 d/b 1802

Killeevan - RCBL b. m. d/b  1811 *

Kilmore (Clogher Diocese) - local custody, b.m.d/b 1796

Tedavnet/Tydavney - local custody, b.m.d/b 1802 *

Tehallan/Tyhallon - local custody, b.m.d/b 1806 *

Tullycorbet - original records lost, some transcripts available PRONI/RCBL

*  some coverage RootsIreland

The RCB Library, which hold most of the historic Church of Ireland records for the Republic of Ireland, are working on record transcription project, which aims to transcribe and index the Church of Ireland records. I suspect this will take quite some time, and probably start with the records they hold, but hopefully will eventually start work on records held by the parishes..

I found a record of Joseph Bailey's baptism. Looks like he was Catholic after all. I can't read the entire entry but I think he was baptised in Spratstown? Now I am hoping If I locate the Catholic parish for Spratstown I could find a record of the marriage of Samuel Bailey and Mary McEvoy.