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My Scottish Robert Wallace/Wallis (born abt 1759 in Scotland) and family were living in Ireland as of 1783. I found this in naturalization records, so no idea what county or when they arrived. They had two children before the son born in Ireland in 1783, so they may have been living there for some time. It's a common name so I haven't been able to document them in any Irish or Scottish records, just found possibilities They moved to US about 1791 and their first two children died en route.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

 

rutha29

Sunday 11th Dec 2022, 01:56PM

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  • rutha29,

    Statutory birth, death and marriage registration (in some jurisdictions called Vital Records) only started in Ireland in 1864, save for non RC marriages which were recorded from 1845 onwards. So you won’t find statutory birth, death or marriage certificates in Ireland for this family. For earlier years you usually need to rely on church records, where they exist. Ideally you need to know the precise denomination and have some idea of where the person was born in order to search the correct records. Not all churches have records for that period and not all that do are on-line.

    RC records are mostly on-line on the nli site: https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    For other denominations, the churches usually hold the originals but there are also copies in PRONI, the public record office, in Belfast. A personal visit is required to access them. Access to the records there is free.

    This link explains what records exist, parish by parish: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records

    If you are unable to go yourself, you could employ a researcher. Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

    Given the background you have described (ie Scottish surname, arriving from Scotland and leaving again in the 1700s) your ancestors were probably Presbyterian. Unfortunately that doesn’t narrow the search much, as half the population of Ulster then were likewise Presbyterian Scots. Your search is going to be hard. Your family were only in Ireland for around 30 years, possibly considerably less. Apart from the possible baptisms of the 3 children, there are unlikely to be any other records of their presence in Ireland. Few Presbyterian churches in Ulster have records for the 1700s. So I am not very optimistic.

    Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.

    The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA project in conjunction with FTDNA and can offer testing kits at a reduced price. http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 11th Dec 2022, 02:17PM

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