search for Maloney family

Hello,

What are the ancestors' names?

Who were they married to?

Approx dates of births, deaths, marriages?

Names of their children, in order?

Did they emigrate and to where?

Anything you can think of might help us to advise you.

Thanks.

John Francis Maloney born c1866? His parents were Bernard Maloney born c1840? and Mother Mary Maloney (née Cain) born c1840? 

We think we found John Francis Maloney in Boston, Massachusetts marrying a Honora Agnes Tighe in 1895 having had 5 children one of them being Bartholomew Maloney born c l896/7. Margaret A Maloney c 1900, Michael Maloney c1898,William Maloney c1904 and John c1902.

We think the Tighe family came from Glennamaddy possibly and think John Francis Maloney was in Gortnadeeve East Creggs in 1911 with 3 of his children living with his brother Michael Maloney born c1864?

We seem to have found information about John Francis Maloney later on but it is his early years that we are desperately looking for and his parents also. We just can't find anything about their lives in Galway or their whereabouts in Galway? 

Hi, I believe you've posted about John Francis before.  Seems like he is a brick wall for you.  Have you traced his brother, Michael?  Perhaps you would find in Michael's records the mention of a parent's name or a birthplace, etc. Just an idea.

--In the 1901 census, Michael Maloney was living with his mother, Mary [Cain], a widowed farmer, age 60 in Gortnadeeve East. Also in the house was Bridget Maloney, her daughter. 

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Creggs/Gortnadeere_East/1380051/

--Mary [Cain] Maloney’s 1905 death record, witnessed by son Michael:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05599/4574047.pdf

--You might also search Bridget’s records to see what they might reveal about her parents, etc.

Good luck.

Thank you so much Patricia for your reply, I have posted before about John Francis Maloney and his family and had replies but with information I'd already found. It seems this time you have shown me the death record for Mary Maloney (she would have been my husbands Great Great Grandmother) and we've never seen anything about her death before. I will now however look for Michael and Bridget Maloney and see if I can find any different records for them, their Father Bernard Maloney is still proving difficult to locate and it's the only Christian name we have for him?

Thank you once again for your help, I still might have to get back in touch with you if I get stuck, hope that will be ok? 

Jude,

Attached is John Mullowney's civil birth record from 1864. This is a common spelling of that surname in other Galway records. His father is Bartholomew which makes sense as that is the name of his eldest son. His mother's surname is written as Kain.

Regards,

Let's try the attachment again...

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Hi thank you for your reply Carolyn, I have sent you a screenshot of a record I found for John Francis Maloney with the names of his parents and wife. I understand where you are coming from saying that John's Father was Bartholomew and that it makes sense with John's son being called Bartholomew but why does it state that John's Father was Bernard Maloney on the record I found?? Any ideas?

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Carolyn I've sent another official record showing names of John Francis parents as you can see it's at the top.

Jude,  The record Carolyn found looks like it is your John.  Perhaps Bernard was a nickname, even though his full name was Bartholomew?

You might check the 1900 U.S. census and see what month John F. gave for his birth. 

You might also try to get his baptismal record from the church in Galway where he was baptized.

I hope this helps.

Hi Patricia thanks for your help once again, I will definitely look at the 1900 U.S census. I was wondering if you know how I will find out which church to contact regarding his baptismal record?

I'm so grateful for all the help you've given, I'd totally hit a brick wall with my search for John but wouldn't give up you've been amazing you don't know how grateful I am to you. I'll let you know how it goes and hopefully I'll find the information I'm searching for.

Thanks once again, much appreciated 

Jude,

Here are my thoughts...take them or leave them! His marriage record from Boston was self-reported....Bernard could be a nickname as Patricia mentioned.  I looked at the civil death records that begin in 1871 for both Bernard and Bartholomew, but found none. His siblings Bridget and Michael are older than he, so born prior to civil records in 1864...no way to see their father's name. I looked, but did not find a marriage record for Bridget for his name. It appears that Michael was a bachelor, and attached is his death record from 1912...witness was John. Also attached is Honoria Tighe's birth record.

Finally, regarding the suggestion to see his birth year in the 1900 US census might not be fruitful as self-reported birth years are often not accurate. In my own experience, all six of my Irish great grandparent's stated DOBs in the US census records do not match their parish baptismal record or civil record in Ireland. Some were off by five or more years.

Regards,

Thank you Carolyn I will definitely take your thoughts with all my thanks, you have shown us things that I've never seen. I couldn't find any marriage records for Bridget or Michael either, I did however see in the 1911 Irish Census that it seemed John was living with his brother Michael and 3 of John's children whose  names match and the children were born in Massachusetts. I have looked in the 1900 US Census but can't find any information for John, we have Honoras death record in 1905 and have seen pictures of her final resting place in Boston, so where John died I've no idea!

It's all very confusing and thank goodness for the help from people like yourself, we appreciate it very much. 

Regards 

Jude

Hi Carolyn and Jude,

Carolyn is absolutely right when it comes to the year on the 1900 census actually matching the person's birth year. I always look at them as "ballpark" figures.

However, I've had slightly more, though not complete, success with the birth month, which is what I advised Jude to look at.

I hope this helps.

Jude, I found the following on Ancestry. John was listed as Malone, Bartholomew as Bartlett. John's birth month (not shown here, but shown on the census page, is said to be April).  You might want to search Mary Conroy and family. It is possible she is John or Honora's relative.

NameJohn Malone

Age38

BirthplaceIreland

Home in 1900Boston Ward 25, Suffolk, Massachusetts

Ward of City25

StreetMT Vernon

House Number47

Sheet Number23

Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation314

Family Number417

RaceWhite

GenderMale

Relation to Head of HouseLodger

Marital StatusMarried

Marriage Year1895

Years Married5

Father's BirthplaceIreland

Mother's BirthplaceIreland

Years in US15

OccupationDay Laborer

Months Not Employed12

NeighborsView others on page

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Mary ConroyHead

John Malone38Lodger

Nora Malone32Lodger

Bartlett Malone4Lodger

Francis Malone2Lodger

James Conroy21Son

Winifred Conroy18Daughter

Mike Devine25Boarder

You might consider joining an Irish genealogy group such as the Irish Family History Society in Ireland or the Irish Family History Forum in NY or TIARA in Boston. I have found such groups very helpful.

Patricia you are a genius, that information is amazing.I was confused as to the name of  John and Nora's child Francis Malone, but then they did have a child whose name was Michael Francis so that ties in and becomes clear. It states Bartlett's birth month as January and we thought it was August but as you say maybe look at them as 'ballpark' figures. 

I will have a look for Mary Conroy and see what I uncover about her, just got to find John Francis death place now. I'm unsure whether it would be Ireland or the U.S. as from my research I think John was in Gortnadeeve according to the 1911 Census with 3 of his children stayingwithhisbrotherMichael? Once again thank you so much for your help and will keep in touch if that's OK?