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Hi --

I was lucky to find the marriage records of my great grandparents in County Mayo; the records are preserved in the family's parish church.  There is a notation included in one marriage church record:  as best as I can decipher, the notation reads "Affinilatis Dispensatur" -- preceded by a note that might read, "Fee 3o el-30".  This entire deciphering is my best guess - the handwriting is difficult to read.

This marriage occurred on January 27, 1894 at St. James in Carracastle, Mayo.

Possibly relevant details:  my great grandmother was widowed shortly before this marriage, and was pregnant with a fourth child from the union of her first husband.   

Please -- any suggestions as to what these notations mean?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts shared.  I'll try to add a close-up picture of the notation.

Michael.

Michael R

Monday 7th Mar 2022, 09:32PM

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  • afinitatus means they were related through an earlier marriage between the two families. The couple in this case were given a dispensation to marry, as a couple with their degree of relationship were generally not allowed to marry each other. So it looks like the second husband was related to the first.

    Patricia

    Monday 7th Mar 2022, 09:44PM
  • Thank you!  The descendants of the second marriage denied that the two husbands were related, but I think they were!  I appreciate your reply.

     

    Michael.

    Michael R

    Monday 7th Mar 2022, 10:34PM
  • Now you have more research to do!

    Patricia

    Monday 7th Mar 2022, 11:53PM
  • That exact thought has occurred to me!  I appreciate your kindnes, and the active participation of so many smart & kind folk on this message board.  I will pose a detailed request for help regarding how these two husbands were related soon.

     

    Michael.

     

     

    Michael R

    Tuesday 8th Mar 2022, 05:03PM
  • Michael,

    To help with your further research, I think that the note suggests they were related in the 3rd degree.

    Best wishes, Kieran

    Kieran Jordan, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 8th Mar 2022, 06:54PM
  • Thank you, Kieran -- this is such smart and kind message board!  Is your insight derived from looking at the preliminary note with the "3" and the "o" written in?  What would "related in the third degree" mean, in practical terms?

     

    Michael.

    Michael R

    Tuesday 8th Mar 2022, 11:14PM
  • Michael,

    See this link that gives some simple explanation https://www.aliefisd.net/cms/lib/TX01917308/Centricity/Domain/103/Confl…. Maybe I'm not so accurate with the 3rd degree of affinity!

    Best wishes, Kieran

    Kieran Jordan, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 10th Mar 2022, 09:40AM
  • Michael,

    Sorry about another message, but this statememt seems to imply similar degrees of consanguinity and affinity 'If this intercourse is between husband and wife, this relationship extends to the fourth degree of consanguinity, and the degree of affinity coincides with that of blood relationship.' See this link https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01178a.htm. There seems to be different rules in different places and with different churches and at different times. Good luck with deciphering all this.

    Best wishes, Kieran

    Kieran Jordan, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 10th Mar 2022, 10:01AM

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