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John & Mary Jermyn (my great grandparents) are buried at Church of Ireland Drumlane.  We believe that they farmed, which we think was named "Corleggy",  in Belturbet.   Their 8 children were all sent to NZ.  I am descended from their daughter Isabella, my grandmother, (born 1/1/1868) who migrated to Perth  Western Australia.

I have a copy birth certificate of Isaac Jermyn & John Jermyn (twins) born 9/4/1864. Father John Jermyn is listed as farmer.  His wife Mary Jermyn (nee Moore).

I have a copy death certificate John Jermyn, 27/8/1892, Parish/District ANNA, county Cavan, Church of Ireland.

Mary Moore we believe is the daughter of James Moore and Mary Sheridan & sibling of James & Isabella Moore.

Any extra information available would be most appreciated.

China Blue

Monday 26th Oct 2020, 09:29AM

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  • Hello China Blue,

    I wasn’t sure whether the certificates and information you have are based on family information or whether you are well along the track of family history research.  So …. I started with the civil records at www.irishgenealogy.ie .  Perhaps you already know this free website?  If so, forgive any repetition - the Cavan Jermyn families in there potentially provide quite a few leads:

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11403/8187184.pdf

    27.10.1870. Marriage Isabella Moore, Father James, Farmer

    It is possible that she was a sister to Mary Moore 1837-1891 -  the marrying age fits and one of Mary’s children was called Isabella, as per Irish naming traditions.  This lead may be worth following up for a while

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06026/4715742.pdf

    d  25.8.1892 John Jermyn. Widower, Artidowney, aged 70 , Mary Jermyn, dgtr present at death

    Is this the same record you mentioned in your message? If so then Mary Jermyn is worth following up  - e.g. in the 1901 free online census record for 1901. A child who remained behind?

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09466/5430237.pdf

    12.12.1854 Marriage Rebecca Germyn of Corleggy, Father Isaac (farmer)

    I think Rebecca too would bear investigation as a possible sister to John Jermyn b1835.  The record names her father as Isaac, and you note that John had a son Isaac, fitting in with naming traditions.

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03614/2333713.pdf

    b9.4.1864 John Jermyn born in Artidowney

    This presumably is the twin you mention in your message - but there is no mention of the twin Isaac. ..

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03540/2302893.pdf

    b 31.1.1866 John son of John German and Mary , Cavan Union Workhouse

    Well, this throws up so many possibilities!!!  It is possible that the John Jermyn b1864 died (unless you know to the contrary) and that John and Mary named their next child after the deceased - this happened often.

    The fact he was born in the Workhouse is also interesting, because if this was your John & Mary, then it might be a reason for them seeking to help their children by facilitating migration ….do you have dates for this migration?

     

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020764/7284254.pdf

    d 7.9.1871 John Germyn aged 80 at Corleggy, Farmer; Jas Germyn pres at death

    The Corleggy connection is very suggestive of relationship and worth hanging onto to see how it fits into the Jermyn jigsaw.

     

    There was clearly a concentration of Jermyn/Germyns/Germans in the area worth following up - there is a very strong likelihood of relationship and you never know which branch of the family will give you bits of confirming evidence about your direct family line.

     

    I am not sure how much of this you may have worked on already, so will leave it here.  A trawl of the civil records alone I think could be quite productive, particularly where the images of the record are available.  There were quite a number of John Jermyn, so it will be a good idea to keep a note of addresses, witnesses etc to help try and distinguish them.

     

    Hope this helps,

    Irene

    Irene McG, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 29th Oct 2020, 03:33PM

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