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I am searching for Simon Campbell; wife Martha. Son

Edward Campbell

1816–1896

Birth 1816 • Ireland

Death 07 MAR 1896 • Lambton County, Ontario, Canada

Any infomation on this family would be greatly appreciated.

Edward married Anne Lennox in Ireland and had 7 children before immigrating to Canada.

  • Joseph (1835-1919)
  • Robert (1836-)
  • Henry (1838-)
  • Martha (1840-)
  • Simon (1843-1901)
  • Frances (Fanny) Smith (1844-1919)  

Claire

Monday 20th Apr 2020, 06:47AM

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  • Statutory birth, death and marriage registration (in some jurisdictions called Vital Records) only started in Ireland in 1864, save for non RC marriages which were recorded from 1845 onwards. So you won’t find statutory birth, death or marriage certificates in Ireland for this family. For earlier years you usually need to rely on church records, where they exist. You obviously need to know the precise denomination in order to search the correct records. Not all churches have records for that period and not all are on-line.

    RC records are mostly on-line on the nli site:  

    https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    For other denominations, the churches usually hold the originals but there are also copies in PRONI, the public record office, in Belfast. A personal visit is required to access them. Access to the records there is free. This link explains what records exist, parish by parish:

    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records

    However if you don’t know where in Tyrone the family lived, then it’s a needle in a haystack. I searched the records for the Londonderry Sentinel to see if the marriage was published in the newspaper but did not find it. Campbell is a fairly common surname in Tyrone so that doesn’t help either. However Lennox is not so common. In Griffiths Valuation c 1860 there were just 2 households. One in the parish of Kildress and the other in Leckpatrick. So they might be the parishes to focus on.

    I checked the 1901 census of Tyrone. There were just 3 Lennox households then. One was a teacher born in Monaghan and the other was a farmer from Scotland, so that left just one who was native to the area (though the name is obviously Scottish so they probably originated in Scotland too at some earlier period).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 20th Apr 2020, 07:09AM
  • Hi Elwyn, Thank you for your time. The Simon I'm trying to verify lived in County Tyrone, Omagh town (west), Drumragh Parish. This is the information I found:        

    Name: Simon Campbell
    Estimated birth year: abt 1800
    Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
    Death Age: 101
    Registration district: Omagh
    Volume: 2
    Page: 183
    FHL Film Number: 101601 

    In Canada Census, religion for Edward has been listed as: Church of England. I have been to both Griffin's and PRONI in the past but not with this information. I shall recheck both.

    Again, thank you.

    Claire        

    Claire

    Monday 20th Apr 2020, 10:35AM
  • Claire,

    Church of England in Canada is Church of Ireland, in Ireland.

    The death record you have given is available on-line. Here it is:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05719/4613705.pdf

    Simon was a farmer in the townland of Radergan. That’s in the parish of Clogherny. Sadly their early Church of Ireland baptism records were destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin and they have nothing earlier than 1859 now. (Marriages from 1845). This is Simon in the 1901 census. Note that he was Roman Catholic. Does that fit with your information? Is it the right family?

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Beragh/Radergan/1748751/

    You may notice a bit of a difference between Simon's age in the census 90 (taken in April 1901) and his death a couple of months later (101). Most people then didn’t know their age and just guessed. Discrepancies like this are very common in Irish records.

    The RC records for the parish (RC parish of Beragh) start in 1832. The RC parish records are on-line free on the National Library site:

    https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    The informant for the death was H. Owens, son in law, of Beragh. I suspect this is him in the 1901 census:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Beragh/Beragh_Town/1748812/

    Simon’s probate abstract. The full will should be in PRONI. It isn’t on-line. You can pay them to copy it or you can view it free if you go yourself.

    Administration (with the Will) of the estate of Simon Campbell late of Radergan County Tyrone Farmer who died 2 August 1901 granted at Londonderry to Henry Owens General Merchant.

    There wasn’t a Campbell farm in Radergan in the tithes in 1828 so that suggests Simon acquired it after that year. He is listed there in Griffiths Valuation c 1860, along with a Thomas Campbell.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 20th Apr 2020, 12:41PM
  • Hi Elwyn,

     The years just don't jive. Edward was born in 1816.  If Simon was 90 when he died, which I think is more accurate than 101, he would have been born about 1811. Making him more likely Edwards brother than his father. As to the religion, Edward was always listed as Church of England. The Children changed through out the years, but never to Roman Catholic. Therefore, I don't think this is my guy. At least I have illiminated one.

    Thank you again for the help.

    Claire

    Claire

    Saturday 25th Apr 2020, 05:27AM

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