Susan And Mary Waters Inquiry

Hello Fred,

Thanks very much for that information. Maria may be Mary as Maria is a form of the name. Your research is very much appreciated and is of real benefit to the irelandxo project. As we discussed previously our records here at parish level in Eyrecourt are quite scanty. I understand that you cannot put up some of the family related information that you have acquired and appreciate your sensitivity and care in protecting people?s personal privacy.

By the way Fred I may have discovered the Clonkelagh where members of your own family came from. I told you in the past that I thought that it may have been a corruption of Clonkeagh a townland in Clonfert parish beside Ballinakill where the Reddens live today. However, I now believe it may in fact be in the parish of Tiranascragh as there is a place there known as Clonkela in which a Redden family still resides. If you go to the Tiranascragh page at www.irelandxo.com and speak to Pat Madden the parish administrator. He may be able to make the contact that you need. Clonkela was more than likely a townland at an earlier stage that has through time become obscure and is now what we term a local place-name within another townland Muingbaun. The Redden family is named as residing at house No 12 in the 1901 census and house No 6 in the 1911 census in the townland of Muingbaun.

Regards,

Christy C

Christie,

Thank you for the information on my Great Grandfather. I have posted a message to Pat Madden.

Since you said your records are scanty are there any Baptismal, Marriage or funeral records transcribed in the parish registers? I have a keen interest in the two Mary's since it does appear that they had untimely deaths.

Anyother information the parish can provide on the other family members would be fantastic.

Thank You

Fred

Response Received from a Descendant of Henry Waters and Maria Lyons from Australia.

There now appears to have been a forth child Maria. 

My sister-in-law is a descendant of Susan WATERS (daughter of Henry WATERS and Maria LYONS), who arrived on the Lady Kennaway in Dec 1854.

Susan (also know as Susanna) married James LYONS 1859 in Wellington NSW. and died 11 Jan 1911.
I have Susan's sister Mary Ann arriving on the Northumberland in 1862, an immigration deposit paid for by Susan LYONS.
I also found record that James LYONS (Susan's Husband) paid an immigration deposit for Berwick and Maria WATERS to come to Australia on the Wallasea which arrived in Sept 1865, but they both defaulted from the Wallasea without giving notice of the intention not to embark.

Found a death for Berwick WATERS in America, not sure if it is the same Berwick.

Have only recently started to research this family for my sister-in-law, so don't have a lot of information as yet.

In a US based Family tree I had found this information posted  in re a marrige in Freethorpe England and I had forwarded this as infomation but it appears erroneous. Here is the response to that information

I'm not too sure about the information on Henry WATERS married to Maria LYONS in Freethorpe, Norfolk, and wondered what the source of the information was.

Also found an old message posted some 1998 for a researcher looking for information on Susan and Mary Ann WATERS. The researcher, who was a descendant of Mary Ann WATERS, has since passed away, so I am unable to follow up on the enquiry.

They stated:

Henry WATERS a teacher, who was supposed to have gone to the Crimean War and dissapeared.
His wife was Maria LYONS who apparently got married a second time to Mr TARLETON.

This has only added to my confusion. Nothing new when it comes to my family research.

I have been able to fill in some information on Mary Ann WATERS. She married James George Joseph HILL 1865 in Orange NSW, and died in Narrandera NSW 25 May 1898. James G J HILL died in Victoria in 1916.

I have been able to fill in some information on their children if anyone is interested.

Just found a death posting for Henry Waters at the battle of Inkersman Killed in Action November 5 , 1854 Private in the the 1st Battalion of the Coldstream Guard  Crimea, Ukraine