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I am seeking a Thomas Giddes or gittes or Giddis born somewhere in ireland ca 1826.

he married Catherine surname unknown by 1859 as their first child Mary was born in Ireland around then and another daughter Catherine followed ca 1863.

By October 1866 the family were in Dowlais near Merthyr Tydfil where another daughter my great grandmother Margaret was born.

By 1870 the family were in Middlesbrough  and  daughter Emily was born there that year followed by Elizabeth in 1873, Agnes in 1874 and Annie in 1877 - all registered with different variations on the surname including as well as the above Geddis and Gattis. Census for 1871 and 1881 were similarly varied in the spelling of the surname.

Thomas died in Middlesbrough in the first quarter of 1885 and his age was recorded as 58. Some of the daughters still appear in Middlesbrough in 1891 but again using different spellings. First daughter Mary married there in 1877 and between 1881 and 1900 US census emigrated to Massachusetts. I believe her widowed mother and several sisters followed her there as there are possible marriages for them but again census details are inconsistent re surname.

Can anyone identify this family and whereabouts in Ireland they came from Catherine's surname would be especially appreciated as it is totally unreadbale on Middlesbrough birth certificates!

Thanks in anticipation

jiffy128

Monday 11th Mar 2013, 07:36PM

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  • http://down.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0


    Does have a Thomas b. 1827, and several marriages but none to a Catherine.


    You can get quite a bit from this site without paying using this technique-


     


    In this example I was looking for a Minnie and Catherine Wiley sisters parents unknown.


    How I did it was to use the pay to view site


    http://rootsireland.ie/


    I did firstly a national search for Minnie which threw up a couple both in Antrim. I then switched to County Antrim.


    By playing about with the date range I was able to narrow down the baptism to a specific year. I still have not used the pay to view option yet nor used up any of my limited number of free previews. Once I had a Minnie I had to find her parents first names. I started with father first name a - this would bring up any firstnames starting with "a". Working through the alphabet got me to H when I got a hit adding further letters and worked out father was Hugh. Search then for Wiley children no firstname father Hugh within ten years of Minnie. Got 6 hits and using same technique was able to work out the 6 names - but no Catherine. Minnie is a common nickname so reverted to Catherine. Broad search found two which narrowed down to one in 1868 and one in 1872. Was able to work out 1868 was daughter of John and Mary. Broad search found no other children to this couple. 1872 Catherine was daughter of John and Jane and a broad search threw up 9 children. Plodding through the alphabet got me Alexander, Eliza, Catherine, Eleanor, Francis, John, James, Samuel, Wilhemina, which was more complicated since it is usually spelled WilheLmina.  Catherine I knew was 1872, and bit of playing about with date range got me 1881 for Wilhemina. Age gap fits the two sisters although the ages are well out - no surprises there!


    You can play about with the dates until you match up the other 7 children. You can refine it a bit more by choosing one child then working your way through the drop down menu of the various parishes until you get a hit. Then you can see if all the other children were also in the same parish. Bearing in mind couples did move about as well as changing churches. It is quite possible that these 9 children were born to more than one couple named John and Jane.  Getting one transcript should give mothers maiden name and doing a broad search for baptisms to John and Jane with new surname hopefully should confirm 9 children. However many older records do not list mother's maiden name. Using this technique you can gain a lot of data without using up your limited number of free searches or having to buy any transcripts.


     


    Bob Graham (County Fermanagh XO)


     


     

    County Fermanagh

    Monday 11th Mar 2013, 11:04PM
  • Finally acquired a birth certificate for one of their children where I can definitely read mother's maiden name. She was Catherine Glavin.

     

    Still cant find her or her husband though.

    jiffy128

    Tuesday 23rd Apr 2013, 12:45PM

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