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I was fortunate enough to find my Grandfather on the 1911 Census.  (He was 1 month old at the time.)   And the address listed on the census is # 3 Hare Rock (Skerries, Dublin).  But when I check out google maps, I do not see a modern street with that exact name.  Is it possible that back in 1911, the street had the name Hare Rock, but now in modern time it is called Hoar Rock?  I'm curious because my nephew is going to be visiting Ireland on his honeymoon and would like to visit Skerries for a day to see where his Great Grandfather was born.

Any info would be appreciated.

Ed_Greaves

Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 03:09PM

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  • The street is shown on modern maps as 'The Hoar Rock' - see OSI map, spelling variations are quite common for placenames.  The same street is shown the c1900 OSI map but is not labelled.

    Thom's 1912 shows the street as 'Hoar Rock' and includes several of the same names and trades as the 1911 'Hare Rock' census listing. The street is listed as Hore Rock on the 1901 returns, and on many of the 1911 census forms, form N & B1 etc, the street is also noted as 'Hore Rock' or 'The Hore Rock'.
     
    Bear in mind that the numbers shown on the census pages are enumerator references rather than addresses. (In cities and larger towns they sometimes used street numbers as their reference number, but not for this street)

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 03:20PM
  • So if I wanted to see the house my grandfather was born in, and I have the PDF of the original forms, how do I decipher that?

    Not sure if links are allowed, but I'll post the front and back forms I tracked down.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000004826/ 
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000004827/

    Thanks, by the way, for the quick reply.

    Ed

    Ed_Greaves

    Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 03:59PM
  • It may not be possible to be certain where exactly the Mackin/Greaves household was located, the enumerators didn't use a specific route or note the sequence the followed - hopefully in this case the enumerator started at one end of the street and worked along. I checked a few Thom's Directories and up to at least the 1930s street numbers were not used on the street (just 3 streets in Skerries have street numbers in the 1930 listing). 

    Based on the c1900 OSI map it looks like most of the buildings were on the south side of the street so possibly near this building at the eastern end, or this one at the westen end.  That one at the eastern end looks to line up pretty well with the current number 3... Many of the building on the street are modern, but the first couple at the eastern end look older.

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 04:22PM
  • sorry to complicate things... your Albert was actually born in the Rotunda Hospital in Dublin City on the 3rd March, father Josiah{?] Greaves a sailor of Skerries, mother Rose Macken

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 04:32PM
  • No worries, it's great to find any details.  Yes, Josiah is my great-grandfather and Albert my grandfather.  I'm hoping to be in Dublin for the World Science Fiction convention in 2019, and to have some time to at least visit Skerries so I can say I've been there in person. 

    Ed_Greaves

    Thursday 19th Apr 2018, 07:38PM

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