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Hi all, Seeking some advice on interpreting Irish Records.   I have two birdth records for Mary Corboy, both with same birthdate and same parents.  the Ireland Civil Registration 1845-1913 states Birthplace (original) Borrisokane, County Tipperary, Ireland.  The other, Ireland Births and Baptisms 1620-1881 states Birthplace (original) Queen's County, Ireland.

I am in Australia and still coming to terms with Irish Townlands, Parishes, Barony and County and how to record them in my family tree.  Appreciate any help...

Lyn .

Lyn

Tuesday 30th Nov 2021, 04:56AM

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  • Hi Lynn, 
    Can you upload the docs. you gave please.
    There are 5 Mary Corby's registered in Borrisokane and 27 elsewhere in Ireland.
    Or, please state the year of birth and father's name and if you have it the Mothers name.
    Thanks,  
    Margot

    Margot

    Tuesday 30th Nov 2021, 09:26AM
  • Hi Margot, 

    Cant scan or upload at the moment.

    Mary Corboy, Female, 12 May 1868, Queen's County, Queens Ireland, William Corboy (father), Male, Julia Leahy (mother) Female from Ireland Births and Baptisms 1620-1881  (record found under Julia Leahy),  and

    Mary Corboy, Female, 12 May 1868, Borrisokane County Ireland, Carney Borrisokane, William Corboy (father) Julia Leahy Corboy (mother) from Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913 (recoird found under Julia Leahy Corboy)

    Other records indicate the Corboys lived at Carney for sometime.

    Thanks for responding, cheers Lyn

     

    Lyn

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 05:20AM
  • Hi Lyn,
    In familysearch.org I have seen the records, in the IG site there is only one, that is the one from Carney, Borrisokane.
    Ireland Births and Baptisms 1620-1881........This is from Family Search isn't it?
    This link below is Mary Corboy   1868   Father William and Mother Julia leahy.     if you look under the word Principle .................there are three records
    One states.....Civil
    Next states  ........Baptism
    Next states the Baptism information from a TREE.
    Search Results - mary corboy 1868-1868 • FamilySearch
    All three above records are the same Mary Corboy.

    I looked in the 1901 Census if Ireland and see Julia Corboy with her son Maurice. I checked his birth and it was William and Julia Leahy.
    I cannot find William and Julia's marriage.
    Julia wasn't listed in the 1911 Census and I havn't found her or William's death record....well not yet.
     Hope this explains.

    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 12:25PM
  • Hi Lyn,
    I should have added this....this is the page from 1868 in Stradbally, Queen's County Church Records.
    Mary is not listed.
    04202/03, Stradbally - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
    Where Carney is.....as you go to the top of the road you meet the main Borrisokane to Nenagh road, in front of you is the Church at Ardcroney, which comes under Cloughjordan, I have checked their records and not found her.
    Then Borrisokane, not listed.
    This record you have in Queen's may have come from Rootsireland, not all records are in all sites.
    There are Corboy in Carney up to 1957. I will search by Maurice Corboy's children.
    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 01:05PM
  • I have attached some records I found.
     

    Margot

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 01:18PM
  • In case you're interested in the history, the surname MacCorboy/Corboy comes from the Irish Mac Corrbuidhe, which is believed to be based on the Irish words corr, meaning “crane”, and buí (buidhe in the old spelling), meaning “yellow”.  In origin, it was possibly a nickname for someone with blond hair who was thin and looked like a bit like a crane.  Most Gaelic-origin names are based on a real or putative ancestor's given name, nickname, or some characteristic (such as the name Cameron, which means “crooked nose”).

    The name originated in what are now Counties Laois (formerly Queens) and Offaly (formerly Kings).  The pronunciation of the surname in Irish led to a number of other Anglicized forms.  Two of them are Curraby and Creaby, found mainly in County Mayo (where I have relatives with both forms of the name).  Some of the Corboy's emigrated there centuries ago from Laois/Offaly.  Sometimes, different Anglicized forms can be found within the same family, even in the same generation.   Other Anglicized forms include Kirby and in some cases Corbett (which normally has a different origin).  Handwritten forms of the name in parish registers have also sometimes been misread in ways such as Curry and Curly.

    The name is distinct from the Cork name O'Corby, which had a different origin.

    kevin45sfl

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 11:00PM
  • Hi Margot,

    Many thanks for your efforts. Much appreciated.  A family tree with no sources  I checked had Julias and William marriage as 05 Jun 1867 in Carneybeg, Cloughprior.   I did find the most likely 1911 census indicating same area but house 12 instead of 18 for Julia Corboy  (still can't upload records at the moment).

    I found a record for twins born to Michael Lahey and Mary Mackey.  One was Judith (sp) John Ryan and Sarah Ryan and the other Ellen  (sp) Michael Lahey and Margaret Lahy.  Ellen may have married James Walsh on 21st Feb 1871 in Cashel and Emly wit: Patrick Martin and Bridget Lahy.  As yet this is speculation.

    Once again appreciate all your interest and support.

    Cheers Lyn

     

    Lyn

    Thursday 2nd Dec 2021, 10:26AM
  • Hi Lyn,

    you say.......
    I did find the most likely 1911 census indicating same area but house 12 instead of 18 for Julia Corboy

    Sorry, yes Julia was in house 12 in 1911  Maurice was in house 3.
    This is the house and buildings return sheet from the census in 1911, it gives a better picture.
    www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003360015/

    House numbers are only an identification number, not an actual house number. Everyone knew everyone.
    I have attached the marriage of Ellen Lahy and James Walsh
     

    Margot

    Friday 3rd Dec 2021, 05:54PM

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