Walter Carew or Carey of Ballyglasheen

Message forwarded to one of our Tipperary volunteers.

Hi Barb, you have amazing research already done, did you find it on shipping list.  I found  Widow Mary Hally in lot 30  awning 30 acres in Kilfeacle civil parish. in Griffiths valuation.

I found  Patrick Burke  in lot 1a  in Ballyslatteen  Barony Clanwilliam , Tipp south riding.  In the 1901 Census found James Hally aged 51 in house  with a family of  Burkes in Ardobireen Thomastown.

Found Luke Hally  with wife and 4 grown up Children  in Kilfeacle  DED Kilfeacle, in 1901 census.   up to about 40 years ago there was a Hally,s grocery shop in the village of Golden.

There is a very old Graveysrd in the middle of the village of Golden, I will try and find out are the headstones recorded.  Records for Thomastown Graveyard on line at Tipperary Studies Digitisation Project some of your ancestors could be buried there.  Also I have some of the Headstone ins for Kilfeacle, which I will look through.

All of the Kilfeacle headstones available in  the reference section of the Branch Library Tipperary town, closed at the moment due to pandemic

Volunteer  Christina.

Hi Christina, thank you so much for your reply, comments and information.

The information I have about the Carew/Careys and Hallys came initially from the arrival records of William Hally (known as Holley in Australia) and his wife Anne or Nancy Carew or Carey. They came to Sydney as assisted migrants and luckily quite a bit of information about their descent and origin was recorded.

It's a bit of a long story, but I found them by pure luck back in the late 1980s by dint of scanning through microfilm of shipping arrivals in Sydney in the early 1840s. The hint to look there came from William and Anne's death certificates which included information about WIlliam's parents, the names of their children, their origin (Tipperary) and the likely date they arrived in Sydney. Although the family was registered as Hurry on the immigration records, the details about parents, origin and names and ages of children allowed me to make the probable identification.

Fortunately the immigration record also included parish data - Kilfeacle for Anne/Nancy Carey/Carew and Golden for William Hally/Hurry/Holley. These records indicate that William's parents were Richard Hally and Margaret Cooney or Quinney, and that Anne's parents were Walter Carew/Carey and Judy (possibly Julie) Walsh (recorded as Welch). At the time of their emigration Richard Hally was dead and Margaret Cooney was still living in Golden, Walter Carew and Judy/Julie Walsh were still living in Kilfeacle.

Much later, as parish records became available online, I found the baptisms of William and Anne's three youngest Irish-born children in Golden: Thomas born 1n 1836, Michael born in 1838, and Honora/Norah born in 1840. I am descended from Norah. This more or less completed the confirmation that I had the right family.

The baptisms suggest a relationship with Ryans - the baptism sponsors were John Carew and Margaret Ryan in 1836 and 1838, and James Ryan and Julianne Walsh in 1840. Possibly these were aunts and uncles of the babies. 

On the other hand there is the Hally name which, as you point out, is fairly common in the area. I'm in touch with a Hally genealogy group that includes Kilfeacle Hally descendants, but have yet to see how I might connect to any of the members. It's tempting to think Luke Hally might have been a brother or cousin but I don't know.

I would love to have any information that is available from gravestones, even though I suspect the family was quite poor and may not have had grave markers, so thank you for offering to search that out.

I visited the area around Golden and Kilfeacle with my husband and daughters in 2010 and got a real sense of place. We visited the church in Golden but did not visit any graveyards. Maybe we will get back again one day. 

Thank you again for all your comments and information, and thank you to Ireland Reaching Out for this opportunity to connect!

Once again BarBM, You were lucky to have found so much material from the Shipping list, Also you found the Catholic Church records 

on line since July  2015, a red letter day, for those doing research.  Ryan would be the most popular name in Tipperary, and 

parts of Limerick.   There.s a big Ryan DNA  Project being launched at the moment, will send you link to it when it starts.

Hally a fairly scarve name and  I feel only in the Golden/Kilfeacle area.   You are lucky to have found a Hally Group, and hopefully

you will find  living relatives from it. Headstones a great source of material, and most families had headstones some very old

but still pointed one in the right direction,  You were lucky to visit Golden, its a lovely Village with the River Suir flowing through it.

 The  best of luck with your research, if I find more material will get back to you, in the meantime if you have any questions, get back to me.

Christina.

Thank you, Christina, for all your help.

Best wishes,