Whitmore and Tackaberry - County Wexford

Hello Fred,

I found a copy of the original County Wexford birth record for your Sarah Whitmore. You may be surpried to learn however, that she was not born in 1866. I also found copies of the original birth records for several of her brothers and sisters, all children of William Whitmore and Eliza/Elizabeth Tackaberry.

I also uncovered indexes for the marriage of William Whitmore and Elizabbeth Tackaberry, and can send you further information about how you may be able to obtain a copy of their original civil registration marriage record.

I also want to see if I can find the Whitmores and Tackaberrys in Irish land records. I haven’t begun this research yet.

It’s going to take some time to put all this information together, and so I hope you don’t mind if I get all the records to you sometime in the new year, as I am presently assisting another family researcher with their Irish genealogy as well.

I have a suspicion that your Whitmore and Tackaberry ancestors belonged to the Anglican Church of Ireland. Can you confirm that for me?

Thank Fred. I’ll get the records to you as soon as I can, and in the meantime if I have any further questions about your ancestors, I may write sooner.

Best Wishes for the New Year.

Dave Boylan

Dear Dave:

 

Thank you so much for your help with this. Yes, I am surprised that Sarah Whitmore was not born in 1866. However, I have just done some further investigation and discovered a1868 date as well and believe that this might actually be more accurate. I look forward to receiving information concerning the actual date from you.

With respect to the Whitmore and Tackaberry families belonging to the Church of Ireland, I believe this to be true.

In your research, is it possible to locate the cemeteries in which my Whitmore - Tackaberry ancestors are buried? I am also interested in locating any living descendants. I realize that this is a lot to ask and appreciate how difficult a task this may be. However, if you are able to give me suggestions about how to follow up with regard to this, I would be grateful

I look forward to receiving further information from you in the New Year. Thank you again for all that you are doing to assist me with this.

All the best to you in 2019,

Fred 

 

You’re welcome Fred and Happy New Year! I going to attempt to find as much information about your Whitmore and Tackaberry/Thackaberry ancestors as I can, utilizing a few different genealogy sites online. I’ll look for the churches where they may have worshipped and see if these churches have cemeteries nearby where your ancestors may have been buried. I’m also going to see if I can find the Whitmore and Tackaberry families in Irish land records. I’ll be accompanying the research with maps where they may have lived. These will be contemporary maps along with street views, as well as old Ordnance Survey Maps from the 1800s, as some of these old maps show the locations of landmarks such as churches, schools and police barracks as they had existed over 150 years ago.

I did suspect that your ancestors were Church of Ireland as I couldn’t find them in Catholic baptism and marriage records that are readily available online.

I’ll also be sending at least six attachments, and maybe more, of copies of original records I found concerning the Whitmore family. Locating the records may take some little time, and I hope to get everything to you by this weekend, and if not by this weekend, then sometime during the following week, as other work commitments I have slow down the research.

In addition, I’ll also see if there are any Whitmore and Tackaberry still living in the areas of County Wexford where your ancestors came from.

Thank you again for writing Fred, and best wishes for the New Year.

Kind Regards,

Dave

Attached Files

Hello Fred,

Since first contacting you on December 30, 2018 on the Ireland XO Message Board for County Wexford, I not only found the civil registration birth record for your grandmother Sarah Whitmore, but also uncovered the civil registration birth records for five other children of William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry.

I initially found the birth indexes for the Whitmore children at the FamilySearch website search engine at: https://www.familysearch.org/search/hr/search

To search the site you’ll first have to register, but registering with FamilySearch is free.

The FamilySearch indexes will list “Gorey,” Wexford, Ireland as the birthplace for each child. However, Gorey was not the actual birthplace of the children, as you’ll see a little later, but refers to the Civil Registration District where their births were recorded.

The indexes follow:

Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name Mary Anne Whitmore
Gender Female
Birth Date 04 Sep 1865
Birthplace 0823, GOREY, WEXFORD, IRELAND

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Elizabeth Tackaberry

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5Y4-SX4 : 10 February 2018), Mary Anne Whitmore, 04 Sep 1865; citing 0823,GOREY,WEXFORD,IRELAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 101,111.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name Emily Whitmore
Gender Female
Birth Date 20 Aug 1867
Birthplace 0810, GOREY, WEXFORD, IRELAND

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Elizabeth Tackaberry

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55G-9LL : 10 February 2018), Emily Whitmore, 20 Aug 1867; citing 0810,GOREY,WEXFORD,IRELAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 101,151.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name Sarah Whitmore
Gender Female
Christening Place 834, GOREY, WEX, IRE
Birth Date 03 Aug 1868
Birthplace Gorey, Wex, Ire

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Eliza Tackaberry Whitmore

Citing this Record
"Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL3W-N7P4 : 17 March 2018), Sarah Whitmore, 03 Aug 1868; Birth; Gorey, County Wexford, Ireland; citing General Register Office, Southern Ireland; FHL microfilm 101,171.
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Ireland Civil Registration

Name William Whitmore
Event Type Birth
Event Date 22 Feb 1870
Event Place Gorey, County Wexford, Ireland
Event Place Moneycross, Gorey, Ireland
Gender Male

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Elizabeth Tackaberry Whitmore

Citing this Record
"Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGVQ-ZDPH : 17 March 2018), William Whitmore, 22 Feb 1870; Birth; Gorey, County Wexford, Ireland; citing General Register Office, Southern Ireland; FHL microfilm 101,201.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name Samuel Whitmore
Gender Male
Christening Place GOREY, WEX, IRE
Birth Date 08 Apr 1872
Birthplace Gorey, Wex, Ire

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Eliza Tackaberry

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5VK-Y8Q : 10 February 2018), Samuel Whitmore, 08 Apr 1872; citing Gorey, Wex, Ire, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 255,851.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name George Whitmore
Gender Male
Christening Place Gorey, Wex, Ire
Birth Date 26 Aug 1874
Birthplace Gorey, Wex, Ire

Father's Name William Whitmore
Mother's Name Eliza Tackaberry

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYM-8C3 : 10 February 2018), George Whitmore, 26 Aug 1874; citing Gorey, Wex, Ire, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 255,909.
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Using the Whitmore birth indexes from the FamilySearch website as a guide, I next wanted to see if I could find copies of the original civil registration birth records for each of the six Whitmore children. This search was conducted at the free irishgenealogy.ie website.

Before getting to these birth records I’d like to explain a little about civil registration in Ireland, viz:

The government in Ireland commenced with civil registration of Protestant civil and church marriages on 1 April 1845. Catholic marriages were not recorded by the government at the request of the Catholic Church, as the Catholic hierarchy in Ireland did not want the Anglican government to have lists of its parishioners at that time.

Civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denomination in Ireland began on 1 January 1864. This means that any births, marriages, and deaths after 1863, would ostensibly have been recorded by county registrars in their respective Civil Registration Districts. However, because civil registration for all religious denominations was new, not all births, marriages, and deaths were recorded in 1864. Even after 1864 there were births, marriages, and deaths that were not recorded, probably because they were not reported to the local registrars. Births, for example, were traditionally reported to the local registrars, or assistant registrars by the mother, the father, a relative, a midwife, or the head of the workhouse, if the child had been born in a workhouse, as many were in Ireland in the 19th century. Marriages, in the beginning of civil registration were reported to the registrars by the clergyman who married the couple, but after a time, the groom or the bride took on the responsibility of reporting their marriage to the registrar.

Deaths were reported to the registrars either by a relative or a friend of the deceased, or the head of the workhouse, if the person had the misfortune of ending up in the workhouse because they couldn’t support themselves.

The irishgenealogy.ie website has digitized, and placed online for free, copies of original civil birth records from 1864 to 1916. Copies of original marriages are online for the years 1870 to 1941. Copies of original death records are available for the years 1878 to 1966. The irishgenealogy.ie website plans to make available online, copies or original marriage records back to 1845, and death records back to 1864. At present there are indexes of marriages available online from 1845 to 1869, and death indexes from 1864 to 1877. But these indexes do not give a lot of information, as you’ll see later in this reply.

Today, birth, marriage, and death registers are held by the General Register Office (GRO), with locations in Dublin and Roscommon Town, County Roscommon. The civil records of birth, marriage, and death you can access online from irishgenealogy.ie originally come from the GRO.

COPIES OF THE ORIGINAL WHITMORE BIRTH RECORDS

Copies of the original birth records in chronological order for all six Whitmore children are attached to this reply.

All of the children were born in the townland of Moneycross, County Wexford. Moneycross was located in the Civil Parish of Liskinfere, County Wexford. Liskinfere is alternatively spelled “Leskinfere.”

Go to the following link for more information about the Leskinfere Civil Parish from the 1837 edition of Lewis’s Topographical Dictionary of Ireland:
https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/L/Leskinfere-Gorey-Wexford.php

Below are descriptions of each birth record of the Whitmore children from 1865 to 1874:

Mary Anne Whitmore was born in Moneycross, County Wexford, on 4 September 1865. Her father is William Whitmore, a farmer residing in Moneycross. Mary Anne’s mother is Elizabeth Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry. William Whitmore reported the birth to the district registrar, George Weldon, who recorded the birth in the Gorey, Wexford Registration District on 20 September 1865. Mary Anne’s birth is entry 382, which is the last record on the birth register.

Emily Whitmore was born in Moneycross, Wexford, on 20 August 1867. Her father is William Whitmore, a farmer who resided in Moneycross. Emily’s mother is Elizabeth Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry. The child's mother Elizabeth, of Moneycross reported the birth to the Registrar, George Weldon, who recorded the birth in the Gorey Registration District on 10 September 1867. Emily’s birth is entry number 351 on the birth register.

Your grandmother Sarah Whitmore was born in Moneycross, County Wexford, on 3 August 1868. Her father is William Whitmore, a farmer whose residence is Moneycross. Sarah’s mother is Eliza Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry. Mary Tackaberry, who was present at the birth, reported the birth to the Deputy Registrar, John O’Neill, who recorded Emily’s birth in the Gorey Registration District on 29 August 1868. Sarah’s birth is entry number 87 on the birth register. Mary Tackaberry could have been Elizabeth’s mother, sister, or aunt, but that is only a guess on my part.

William Whitmore was born on February 22, 1870 in Moneycross, County Wexford. His father is William Whitmore, a farmer residing in Moneycross. The mother is Sarah Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry. Mary Nowlan, who was present at the birth, reported William’s birth to the Registrar, George Weldon, who recorded the birth in the Gorey Registration District on 20 March 1870. William’s birth is entry number 412 on the birth register. Mary Nowlan could have been the midwife who helped to deliver William, or could have been a relative of either William Whitmore Sr., or Elizabeth Tackaberry. The birth entry notes her residence was “Clough.” This place is also spelled “Clogh.”

Next, Samuel Whitmore was born in Moneycross, County Wexford, on 8 April 1872. His father is William Whitmore, a farmer residing in Moneycross. Samuel’s mother is Eliza Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry. The mother, Eliza Whitmore, of Moneycross, reported the birth to the Registrar, George Weldon, who recorded the birth in the Gorey Registration District on 29 April 1872. Samuel’s birth is entry number 414 on the birth register.

George Whitmore, the youngest child I found, was born on 26 August 1874 in Moneycross, County Wexford. His father is William Whitmore, a farmer residing in Moneycross. His mother is Eliza Whitmore, formerly Tackaberry, residing in Moneycross. Eliza reported her son George’s birth to the Registrar, G. Weldon, who recorded the birth in the Gorey Registration District on 14 September 1874. George’s birth is entry number 431, which is the first birth recorded on the register.

The birth records for the Whitmore children show the family had been living in Moneycross. A Google Map however, shows there is a Moneycross Upper as well as a Moneycross Lower not far from one another. The birth records do not specify which particular Moneycross townland the family had lived in. See the map at: https://is.gd/Ysk8u4

You’ll also see the location of Clogh on the Google Map referenced above.

For a Google Street View of Moneycross Upper see: https://is.gd/ItjEdE

For a Google Street View of Moneycross Lower, see: https://is.gd/4pt7yM

Both Moneycross Upper and Moneycross Lower were located in the Civil Parish as well as the Church of Ireland Parish known as Liskinfere, also spelled Leskinfere. An enlarged Google Map shows the location of a Church just west of Moneycross, near the townland of Clogh. This is St. Luke’s Church of Ireland and may be the parish church where the Whitmore children were baptized. See the map at: https://is.gd/h00Mxt

For a Google Street View of St. Luke’s Church of Ireland see: https://is.gd/mGM8Ep

Also see the photo of the church from the Wikimedia Commons site: https://is.gd/rKTBts

In addition I found the location of St. Luke’s Church near Moneycross Upper on an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1842 time period. The name of the church is not labeled on the map, and comes from the GeoHive website. To view the map go to: http://bit.ly/2AoqdS4

It’s pure speculation on my part at this time that the Whitmore children were baptized in St. Luke’s Church of Ireland, but as far as I can tell St. Luke’s is the closest Church or Ireland church to Moneycross.

I was hoping the Liskenfere (St. Luke’s) Church of Ireland baptism, marriage, and burial records were not destroyed in the Four Courts Fire in Dublin during the Irish Civil War of 1922. To read a brief history of the Four Courts Fire and what records were destroyed, go to the Irish Genealogical Tool Kit link at:
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-records-burned.html

To find out if the Liskenfere records were still available I went to the Representative Church Body (RCB) website. The RCB is located in Dublin and is the trustee of the Church of Ireland, which holds “the real and moveable property of the Church of Ireland.” This real and moveable property includes parish registers of baptisms, marriages and burials that survived the Four Courts Fire.

The home page for the RCB can be found at:
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/catalogues/represent…

A color-coded alphabetical list of Church of Ireland parishes with records still available for research, as well as records that were destroyed in the Four Courts Fire, is available from the RCB website link at: https://is.gd/6ZqCd5

The names of parishes highlighted in grey are those parishes that had registers which were destroyed in the Four Courts. Those parishes with no color code are parishes that had records in local custody during the fire, and therefore survived. Scrolling down to the Leskinfere Church of Ireland Parish on the list, I found there was no color code attached to it, meaning that that baptism records for the parish survived and are available from 1802 to 1875, that marriages are available from 1802 to 1845, and that burials are available from 1802 to 1875. This is very good news!

What you can do at this point Fred, is send an email to the Priest in Charge, the Rev. Canon Mark Hayden, and explain that your grandmother Sarah Whitmore and her five siblings were born in Moneycross Upper, and that you believe the children may have been baptized in St. Luke’s. Provide the names of all the children and their dates of births from the civil registration birth records attached to this reply. There may be a small charge for this service, and so you can ask the Rev. Canon how much it will cost to look for the six Whitmore baptism records. Send your email to: gorey@ferns.anglican.org

If the children were not baptized in St. Luke’s, it’s possible they were baptized in the Church of Ireland in Gorey. This church is called Christ Church. Gorey is about 5 miles east of Moneycross Upper. There are actually four churches within the Gorey group of churches, including St. Luke’s. Information from the Gorey group website notes that the parish records for the four churches have almost all been completely computerized, and that searching the registers won’t take as long since the computerization. See: http://www.gorey.ferns.anglican.org/index5.htm

It’s also possible that, if William Whitmore was born in the Liskenfere Parish, his baptism record may be available, as baptism records go back to 1802. The church marriage record for his parents may also be in the St. Luke’s registers, as marriages also go back to 1802 .

GRAVESTONE INSCRIPTION FOR ST. LUKE’S CEMETERY

Going back to the GeoHive website I found another Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period showing there is a graveyard associated with St. Luke’s Church. This map, in black and white, can be viewed at: http://bit.ly/2Ss2Qhq

Once at the map you’ll have to close the “Menu” to view the church and graveyard.

According to the johngrenham.com website link, a researcher named Brian Cantwell had transcribed several thousand gravestone inscriptions from Wicklow, Wexford, and South Dublin. These are called, “Cantwell’s Memorials of the Dead. See: http://www.iancantwell.com/BrianCantwellMemorials.php

These inscriptions are on a CD which costs about 57 Euros. However, the Cantwell Memorials of the Dead are available from the subscription and pay-as-you-go website called Find My Past. This is a great website which I have been utilizing for years, both on a pay-as-you-go basis and also for free Roman Catholic Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials throughout Ireland for much of the 19th century.

Find My Past allows you to search the Cantwell Memorials of the Dead indexes for free. The search engine to do this can be found at: https://is.gd/PaGzIr

At the Find My Past search engine for Cantwell’s Memorials of the Dead indexes I looked for listing for Whitmores and Tackaberrys in the St. Luke’s Church of Ireland Cemetery, but found that none had been recorded by Brian Cantwell. The indexes show there are 67 gravestone inscriptions for St. Luke’s Cemetery.

You can view these indexes with the names of the individuals recorded on the gravestones by going to the following Find My Past link: https://is.gd/dXlShd

If there are Whitmores or Tackaberrys buried in St. Luke’s it’s possible their gravestones were not legible when Brian Cantwell was there to transcribe the information on the stones.

St. Luke’s is a very old church and cemetery. You can read more about the church and view a photo of the church at the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage website link at: http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=WX&…

I next went to the Find My Grave site for St. Luke’s Cemetery to see if anyone had submitted entries for Whitmores or Tackaberrys, but found that no one had. There are only four grave entries, three with photos, submitted to the St. Luke’s cemetery which you can view at the following link: https://is.gd/CH6 DfN

GRIFFITHS VALUATION

The next search involved looking for William Whitmore in the Liskinfere Civil Parish, County Wexford, in an Irish property tax record called Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for County Wexford was completed by the year 1853, just a few years after the height of the Great Famine, which devastated the potato crop and the population of Ireland, and which had a profound negative impact upon Ireland right into the 20th century. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)

Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as a husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who leased property. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman for the owner. This person was called the “Immediate Lessor.”

You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the askaboutireland website link at:
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

I found William Whitmore in Griffiths Valuation leasing property in Moneycross Upper, Civil Parish of Liskinfere. This record may refer to the father of the William Whitmore who married Elizabeth Tackaberry.

No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 2A, 2B
Civil Parish: Liskinfere
Townland: Moneycross Upper
Occupier: William Whitmore
Immediate Lessor: Rev. Abel J. Ram
Description of Tenement: House, offices, and land
Description of Tenement: Land
Area of Land, First Parcel: 29 Acres, 3 Roods, 5 Perches
Area of Land, Second Parcel: 3 Acres, 1 Rood, 5 Perches
Rateable Annual Valuation of Land, First Parcel: 23 Pounds
Rateable Annual Valuation of Land, Second Parcel: 1 Pound, 10 Shillings
Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 2 Pounds
Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 26 Pounds, 10 Shillings
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Griffiths Valuation shows that William Whitmore leased two different parcels of land, a house, and offices from the Rev. Abel J. Ram in the townland of Moneycross Upper. The first parcel of land was over 29 acres in size and valued at 23 Pounds. The second parcel of land was over 3 acres in size and valued at 1 Pound and 10 Shillings. The house and offices were valued at 2 Pounds. The total value of the property was 26 Pounds and 10 Shillings. William would have paid a percentage of the 26 Pounds and 10 Shillings toward the tax.

An office in a Griffiths Valuation record could be any type of outbuilding such as a barn, stable, blacksmith shop, piggery, etc. The map numbers at the top of entry (2A, and 2B), refer to the location of William’s lease in Moneycross Upper on an Ordnance Survey Map from the time period. This map is very similar to the Ordnance Survey Map from GeoHive that you saw earlier, only the earlier map doesn’t have the same location numbers of properties in Moneycross Upper. The Griffiths Valuation Map can be accessed from the Ask About Ireland index for William Whitmore, but I haven’t been able to figure a way to either link these maps or attach these maps so that I can send them to family researchers.

I can show you where Map Numbers 2A and 2B were on the Ordnance Survey Map you saw earlier. Go to:
http://bit.ly/2Syk1h4

At the very center of the map you’ll see a parcel of land with a red boundary line running through it. On the extreme right of this property is a small pond. This is where Map 2B is labeled on the Griffiths Valuation Ordnance Survey Map. Just to the left of this parcel, is another piece of property. The western portion of this property touches the letter H of the townland Clogh. The northern portion of the land borders on the land where the School House is situated. This is Map 2A.

Griffiths Valuation shows there were only four other Occupiers leasing property in Moneycross Upper. These were Thomas Webster, the Rev. Thomas Ottiwell Moore, Thomas Smith, and Thomas Raffold. No Tackaberry/Thackaberry Occupiers are shown to have leased property in the Civil Parish of Liskinfere, and that’s why I think that Liskinfere was the home parish of the Whitmore family and that Kilmuckridge was the home parish of the Tackaberry family. A Google Map shows that Moneycross in the Liskinfere parish is 15 miles north of Kilmuckridge. See: https://is.gd/Z8ymrM

The question is, how did William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry meet each other, being as they lived several miles from one another and likely attended church services in their own respective parishes. It’s possible the Tackaberry family had moved to Moneycross or a townland near Moneycross after Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in County Wexford.

THE TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOKS

There is an even older land record than Griffiths Valuation. This record is called the Tithe Applotment Books. Names of the landholders in the Tithe Applotment Books are available at the National Archives of Ireland website for free. For a very comprehensive overview of what the Tithe Applotment Books were, go to the National Archives of Ireland website links at:

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/about.jsp

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/aboutmore.jsp

The Tithe Applotment Books were completed for the townland of Moneycross Upper, Civil parish of Liskinfere by 1831. The Tithe Applotment index shows that two un-named Whitmores and two entnries for a Thomas Whitmore had leased property in Moneycross Upper. See the index at: https://is.gd/bsmRTU

The names of the landholders in the index are highlighted in blue. If you click on a name, a copy of the original Tithe record will appear for that person. For instance if you click on the first Whitmore the Tithe page will appear for Moneycross Upper and other townlands. You’ll need to enlarge the image to view it. Once you enlarge the image you’ll see entries for the Widow Whitmore and for Thomas Whitmore. You’ll see that the Widow Whitmore had leased 19 acres, 3 Roods, and 0 Perches of land in Moneycross Upper. The value per acre of this property was 2 Shillings and 3 Pence. The “Amount of Composition” or value of the land was set at 2 Pounds, 4 Shillings, and 5 Pence.

Just below the Widow Whitmore is the entry Thomas Whitmore. He may have been the Widow Whitmore’s son, leasing over 8 acres valued at 19 Shillings and 6 Pence.

The other two entries on the index page for Thomas and the Widow Whitmore, refer to the same Tithe entry described above. I’m not sure why the Widow Whitmore and Thomas Whitmore are indexed twice. The Widow Whitmore may have been your William’s mother, while Thomas may have been his brother, but that is only speculation.

THE 1901 CENSUS OF IRELAND

The Tithe Applotment Books and Griffiths Valuation are what are as “Census Substitutes," because they take the place of most of the census returns of 19th century Ireland, which were, according to the National Archives of Ireland, either destroyed after the enumerations were taken, or were used for pulp during the First World War because of a paper shortage.

The first full census of Ireland that is available for research is the 1901 enumeration, followed by the 1911 census, the search engine of which you can access at the National Archives of Ireland link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

I now wanted to see if there were still any Whitmore individuals or families still living in Moneycross Upper, County Wexford, Ireland in the 1901 census. I didn’t find any Whitmore s or Thackaberry individuals or families in Moneycross in the 1901 or 1911 enumerations.

Concerning whether or not there are still Whitmores (or Tackaberrys) living in the Moneycross area of County Wexford, I accessed the online Eircom telephone directory to see if anyone by those surnames are listed in Moneycross, but found no listings. I expanded the search to the nearby town of Gorey, five miles from Moneycross Upper, and found three Whitmore listings which you can view at: https://is.gd/G5ZgAN

The addresses and phone numbers of the Whitmores are included in the directory listings. You can write a letter to the three Whitmores listed, explaining you are researching your Whitmore roots from Moneycross Upper and were wondering if they too had ancestors that had lived in the Moneycross Upper/Liskenfere areas of County Wexford in the 19th century.

Another thing you can do is write to the postmaster in Gorey and ask if they know of any Whitmores who had lived in the Gorey/Moneycross area for generations, as you are looking for any Whitmores still living who may be related to. You can send your letter to:

An Post
Gorey, County Wexford
Republic of Ireland
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Additionally, what you may want to try is post a query to the Ireland Reaching Out XO Chronicles, stating you are interested in finding out if there are any Whitmores or Tackaberrys still living in or around Moneycross, County Wexford. The XO Chronicles section of Ireland Reaching Out can be accessed at: https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy

THE MARRIAGE OF WILLIAM WHITMORE AND ELIZABETH TACKABERRY

Based on your information that William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry were married in Kilmuckridge, County Wexford on October 6, 1864, I found an index for the marriage at the FamilySearch website.

The index confirms your information that the couple were married in Kilmuckridge, but in addition shows that William’s father was also named William Whitmore. It also confirms your belief that Elizabeth’s father was George Tackaberry. The index isn’t clear about whether this is a civil marriage or a church marriage. However, because the “Event Place” designation in the index below gives the place of marriage as, “Kilmuckridge,” I’d say it is a church marriage index.

See the index from the LDS website below:

Name William Whitmore
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Tackaberry
Event Date 06 Oct 1864
Event Place Kilmuckridge, Wex, Ireland

Father's Name William Whitmore
Spouse's Father's Name George Tackaberry
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single

Citing this Record
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8Y-BH8 : 10 February 2018), William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry, 06 Oct 1864; citing Kilmuckridge, Wex, Ireland, reference 343, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 101,469.
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Catholic and Church of Ireland marriages in Ireland traditionally took place in the bride’s parish church, and so I’m surmising that the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland is the parish church where Elizabeth may have possibly been baptized.

I also found the individual civil marriage indexes for William Whitmore and “Elzabeth” Tackaberry at the irishgenealogy.ie website. The indexes do not give a lot of information but do show the marriage took place in 1864 and was recorded in the district area of Enniscorthy. The full marriage record is held by General Register Office (GRO), with locations in Dublin and Roscommon Town, County Roscommon. See the indexes below:

Name WILLIAM WHITMORE
Date of Event 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Enniscorthy
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 19
Returns Page No 343

Name ELZABETH TACKABERRY
Date of Event 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Enniscorthy
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 19
Returns Page No 343
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The full civil marriage record for William and Elizabeth will give the name of the church where they were married, their ages, their occupations, if any, where they had been living prior to marriage, and the names and occupations of their fathers. The marriage record will also include the name of the clergyman who married them and the names of the witnesses to the marriage. I went to the Ancestry.com website to see if the full civil marriage, or church marriage had been recorded there, but only found the civil registration index for the marriage, which is similar to the index from the LDS website you see above.

You can order a photocopy of the marriage record for William and Elizabeth from the GRO in Roscommon Town, County Roscommon for 4 (€).Euros. A link to the application form to order civil registration birth, marriage, and death records from the GRO follows:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/images/content/GRO_Documents/Form_for_DAH…

Under the subheading of the application form entitled, “Details of Photocopy Required,” you’ll see columns that ask you for information such as the Group I.D., Year, Quarter, Volume and Page Number. You won’t have to worry about the group I.D. if you provide the Year, Volume, and Page Number. The marriage indexes from irishgenealogy.ie seen earlier, gives the “Returns Quarter” as 1, but the actual quarter when the marriage took place was the 4th quarter of 1864, that is from October to December. And so, on the application form write in 1864 for the year, the number 4 for the quarter, 19 for the volume number, and 343 for the page number. In short, the marriage of William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry was recorded in the 4th quarter of 1864 and can be found in Volume 19, Page 343 of the GRO registers. You can also send the GRO the FamilySearch and irishgenealogy.ie indexes, but that’s not required. You can pay for the marriage certificate with a credit card, and send the application to the GRO address at the top of the application form. You can choose to have the marriage record mailed to you or emailed to you.

As an aside, Kilmuckridge was also known as Ford, or “The Ford,” according to the Wikipedia article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmuckridge

You can also read more about the Parish of Kilmuckridge in the 1837 edition of Lewis’s Topographical Dictionary of Ireland at: https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/K/Kilmuckridge-Ballaghkeen-Wexford…

I now wanted to see if the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland parish registers were extent, as I was hoping against hope that they were not destroyed in the Four Courts Fire in Dublin during the Irish Civil War of 1922.

I went back to the RCB website and did a little further research in their archives and uncovered the following extremely disappointing note about the Kilmuckridge, Wexford, Church of Ireland Parish registers covering the time period that William Whitmore and Elizabeth Tackaberry were married:

RCB LIBRARY - Church of Ireland Archive
Parish Number: P.0994
Records of the Parish of: Kilmuckridge (Ferns)
Period: 1873 - 2007
County of: Wexford
From: Local Custody 2009

Notes: 2 volumes of parish registers, comprising baptisms 1802-78, marriages 1803-77
and burials 1803-78, were destroyed in the fire in the Public Record Office of Ireland in 1922.

Source Information: RCB Church of Ireland Archive: https://is.gd/OxYtxj
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But, I’m not sure if there are copies Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland parish registers or Bishop’s Transcripts of baptism, marriages, and burials still in local custody by the parish priest in Kilmuckridge. You can send an email to the Rev. Bob Gray, and ask how far back in time that the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland parish registers are held in local custody for the 19th century. You can send your enquiry to:

Ven Bob Gray - Incumbent
The Rectory
Knockroe
Courtown, Gorey Y25 NV02
Co Wexford
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The following link from Google Maps shows the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland is 7/10ths of a mile south of the townland of Kilmuckridge: https://is.gd/Fte7JV

For a Google Street View of the townland of Kilmuckridge, go to: https://is.gd/94bMXk

For a beautiful Google Street View of the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland and cemetery, go to. https://is.gd/790r6t

For an Ordnance Survey Map from 1837 to 1842 of the Klimuckridge Church of Ireland from the GeoHive website link, go to: http://bit.ly/2AxIYTb

For an Ordnance Survey Map from 1837 to 1842 of the townland of Ford, (the English name for Kilmuckridge) go to the GeoHive link at: http://bit.ly/2AuEe0A

You can see the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland and more detail of the graveyard from a black and white Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period at: http://bit.ly/2AvyN16

To read about the architecture of the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland and to view photos of the church, go to the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage link at: https://is.gd/fDJMvq

THACKABERRY IN GRIFFITHS VALUATION

As mentioned earlier Griffiths Valuation was completed in County Wesford by 1853. This took place nine years before Elizabeth Tackaberry and William Whitmore were married in 1864. As you know Elizabeth’s father was George Tackaberry. I now wanted to see if I could find George Tackaberry leasing property in the Civil Parish of Kilmuckridge. We know from your records and from the FamilySearch marriage index that the marriage likely took place in the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland. Kilmuckridge was also the name of the Civil Parish as well as the Church of Ireland Parish, but Elizabeth Muckridge and her father did not necessarily live in Kilmuckridge itself, but may have resided in a nearby townland.

I found George “Thackaberry” in Griffths Valuation, the transcription of which follows from the Ask About Ireland website. This entry may refer to Elizabeth’s father, but with the alternate surname spelling of “Thackaberry.”:

No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 13
Civil Parish: Kilmuckridge
Townland: Ballyadam
Occupier: George Thackaberry
Immediate Lessor: William Bolton
Description of Tenement: House, office, and land
Area of Land: 26 Acres, 3 Roods, 38 Perches,
Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 18 Pounds
Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 1 Pound
Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 19 Pounds
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Griffiths Valuation shows that George Thackaberry leased over 26 acres of land, a house and offices in the townland of Ballyadam, Kilmuckridge Civil Parish from an Immediate Lessor named William Bolton. The land was valued at 18 Pounds while the house and offices were valued at 1 Pound, for a total valuation of 19 Pounds.

A Google Map shows that Ballyadam is only 1.7 miles south of Kilmuckridge. See the map at: https://is.gd/oq1nMu

For a Google Street View of Ballyadam, go to: https://is.gd/gtiel3

At the Ask About Ireland website I couldn’t locate Ballyadam or Map 13 on the Ordnance Survey Map where George Thackaberry’s property was situated. This is because this section of the map for the parish of Kilmuckridge appears to be disjointed and not placed together properly with other sections of the map. But, I did find Ballyadam in relation to Kilmuckridge in an Ordnance Survey Map from the GeoHive website. This map if from the 1837 to 1841 time period and can be viewed at: http://bit.ly/2SEVAyS

Griffiths Valuation also shows that a George Thackaberry had leased property in the townland of Knocknasillge, Civil Parish of Ballyvaldon, and that a George Thackaberry had leased property on Selskar Street, Wexford Town. I don’t know if these Thackaberrys were related to the George Thackaberry from Ballyadam or if perhaps they were all the same George Thackaberry leasing property in three different locations in County Wexford, given that the name Tackaberry/Thackaberry was not very common in Ireland compared to other Irish surnames.

THE TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOKS

I next went to the National Archives of Ireland website link to access the search engine for the Tithe Applotment Books to see if a George Tackaberry or Thackaberry had been enumerated in Ballyadam, Civil Parish of Kilmuckridge. I found that a George “Tackaberry” in the Tithe Applotment Book entry from 1833, had indeed leased two parcels of land in Ballyadam at that time. He is the 15th and 16th Occupier on the Tithe Applotment enumeration for Ballyadam, which you can access at: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625684/00…

I also checked the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations to see if there were anyone named Tackaberry or Thackaberry still living in Ballyadam or in Kilmuckridge, but found none listed.

If you decide to go to the aforementioned Ireland Reaching Out XO Chronicles, you may want to also consider posting a query about the possibility of any Tackaberrys still living in the Ballyadam and Kilmuckridge sections of County Wexford. I had accessed the Eircom phone directory for Ballyadam and Kilmuckridge but found no one listed under the Tackaberry/Thackaberry surname.

CANTWELL’S MEMORIALS OF THE DEAD

I next went back to the Find My Past website to access the index for Cantwell’s Memorial of the Dead, as described earlier in this reply. I looked for any indexes for George Tackaberry and found two undated indexes, one for a George Tackaberry and one for a George Frederick Tackaberry, showing they were buried in St. Mogue’s Church of Ireland cemetery, Ballycanew, County Wexford. I didn’t find any Tackaberry entries for the Kilmuckridge graveyard.

I don’t know if these Cantwell index entries pertain to Elizabeth’s father or some other relative or not. You would have to obtain one of the Find My Past subscription packages to view the full entries for both George Tackaberrys in the St. Mogue’s Ballycanew Church of Ireland cemetery.

The following link will bring you to an index of 38 people named Tackaberry listed in Cantwell’s Memorials of the Dead, many of whom are buried in St. Mogue’s cemetery as well as in other Church of Ireland and Roman Catholic cemeteries in County Wexford: https://is.gd/c1vSC4

For more information about Find My Past subscription packages, go to: https://www.findmypast.com/subscribe?fulfillmentTypeKey=1084

I next checked the Find A Grave website for the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland to see if any Tackaberry entries had been submitted to the site, but found none. There are 20 memorials with photos submitted to the Kilmuckridge Church of Ireland graveyard which you can view at: https://is.gd/gsWfjJ

CONCLUSION

There are six attachments included with this reply. They are:

Mary Whitmore 1865 birth record
Emily Whitmore 1867 birth record
Sarah Whitmore 1868 birth record
William Whitmore 1870 birth record
Samuel Whitmore 1872 birth record
George Whitmore 1874 birth record
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In going over all the information in this reply, if there is anything that you think does not pertain to your particular Whitmore and Tackaberry ancestors, or if you have any doubts about the accuracy of the records, do not add them to your permanent Whitmore and Tackaberry genealogy collection until you’ve had more time to do additional research.

If you have any questions Fred please don’t hesitate to write.

Have a Happy New Year and best wishes,

Dave

Dear Dave:

Thank you so much for all the hard work you've put into tracing the steps of my Whitmore/Tackaberry ancestors. I am still sorting through the material and am finding it very interesting and exciting. Your research has given me the kind of boost I need to move on. I am truly grateful for everything that you have done to help me make a concrete connection with County Wexford and my Irish ancestry. While I was of course born in Canada, my roots in Ireland are a major part of who I am.

Since I have discovered how names have been changed over the years, I can appreciate that Tackaberry may have also been spelled Thackaberry. I will be putting out another request soon regarding my great grandmother. Ann Jane Stacey was born in Canada, but her parents would have immigrated from County Wexford. The interesting thing is that in Ireland the name is spelled Steacy but when they arrived in Canada the name was changed to Stacey. However, some of the family (but not all) changed the spelling back to the original, so we have relatives buried in the same cemetery with two different spellings.

Anyway, I am so grateful to you for your diligent, thorough research.

All the best,

Fred   

You're welcome Fred. I find it amazing that with some Irish research you can find a considerable amount of information, but with other searches you find very little or none at all. In the case of the Whitmore and Tackaberry ancestors, there were a considerable amount of records online to access. That was in part due to the availability of civil birth records for all religious denominations after 1864, along with Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe Applotment Books.

Also Fred, can you provide a few more details about the family of your great grandmother Ann Jane Stacey/Steacy? If her parents were married in Ireland I may be able to find some information about them. If they were married in Ireland, do you know where they married and the approximate year of the marriage? Can you provide the names of Ann's parents? Her mother's maiden name is very important. Also did the parents belong to the Church of Ireland in Ireland or the Anglican Church in Canada? Or, were they Roman Catholic?

If Ann's parents came to Canada before they married, I'm not sure how much information I'll be able to find, but I can try and see whether or not , as Mr. Micawber states in the book David Copperfield, "Something will turn up."

Thank you again writing back Fred. Don't hesitate to write with more information about your Irish ancestors from Wexford.

Dave

Hello Dave:

Ann Jane Stacey's father was, I believe, George Steacy who was born, I think, in May 1781 in County Wexford, Ireland. It has always been my understanding that the Steacy's came from the Gorey area. George married Ann (I don't know her maiden name); I don't have a date or place for this event. However, according to my records, Ann was born in Ireland on 13 August 1795 (a significant age difference). She died in Canada on 16 June 1883. George also died in Canada on 14 March 1869. I have two children listed for them: George, who, according to my records, was born in 1810 in County Wexford, and Ann Jane, my great-grandmother, born in Canada on 14 April 1831. Since there is a great spread between these two, there could have been other children that I'm not aware of.

I'm sorry that I don't have more information for you. I know this will be a real challenge. I truly do appreciate your efforts.

All the best,

Fred  

Thank you Fred for the information. I’ll write back sometime this weekend when I can devote more time to seeing what records may be available for Gorey, Wexford.

Best Wishes,

Dave

Attached Files

Hello Fred,

After the last communication on 16 January I learned that the Gorey Church of Ireland parish registers were not destroyed in the Four Courts Fire in Dublin in 1922. I also found that the name of the Church of Ireland in Gorey is Christ Church, and that the baptism registers are extent from 1801 to 1876, while marriage registers are available from 1801 to 1845. Burial registers exist from 1867 to 1876.

It’s possible that Ann Steacy had siblings born in the early 19th century in or near Gorey and that the baptisms of these children may be in the Gorey Christ Church registers. There’s also the possibility that the baptism of George Steacy born circa 1810 is in the Gorey registers.

The clergyman you can email about searching the Gorey Church of Ireland parish registers is the Rev. Canon Mark Hayden. His email address is: gorey@ferns.anglican.org

The Rev. Canon’s mailing address is:

Rev Canon Mark Hayden - Incumbent
The Rectory
The Avenue
Gorey
Co Wexford
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I believe the Gorey registers have been computerized or nearly all computerized by this time, and hopefully the baptism registers will include members of your Steacy family.

You can see the location of Christ Church Gorey on the Google Map at: https://is.gd/ILqnO8

The next link will bring you to a Google Street View of the church: https://is.gd/qluct1

You can also see the location of the Gorey Church of Ireland on an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1841 time period. The map is from the GeoHive website. The Church of Ireland is off Main Street and just below and to the right of the Court House: http://bit.ly/2T4mekV

I found some records at the FamilySearch website concerning the Steacys in County Wexford as well as in or near Gorey, and also in Canada. The Canada record may pertain to your direct ancestor or a collateral line:

Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name William Stacy
Gender Male
Christening Date 27 Sep 1803
Christening Place INCH BY GOREY,WEXFORD,IRELAND
Father's Name Edwd Stacy
Mother's Name Mary

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRS6-LJL : 11 February 2018), William Stacy, 27 Sep 1803; citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm Q941.84 I2 V26I.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name Stacy
Gender Male
Christening Date 17 Jul 1807
Christening Place INCH BY GOREY,WEXFORD,IRELAND
Father's Name Edward Stacy
Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRS6-P94 : 11 February 2018), Stacy, 17 Jul 1807; citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm Q941.84 I2 V26I.
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Ireland Births and Baptisms

Name William Stacy
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 May 1814
Christening Place INCH BY GOREY,WEXFORD,IRELAND

Citing this Record
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRS6-LJ5 : 11 February 2018), William Stacy, 08 May 1814; citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm Q941.84 I2 V26I.
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Ireland Civil Registration Indexes

Name Benjamin Steacy
Event Type Death
Event Date 1871
Event Place Wexford, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year 1871
Registration District Wexford
Age 56
Birth Year (Estimated) 1815
Volume Number 19

Citing this Record
"Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRTF-Y35 : 10 March 2018), DEATHS entry for Benjamin Steacy; citing Wexford, 1871, vol. 19, p. 611, General Registry, Custom House, Dublin; FHL microfilm 101,585.
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Name Nicholas Hollingsworth
Birth Date 1834
Age 26
Spouse's Name Anne Steacy
Spouse's Birth Date 1830
Spouse's Age 30
Event Date 26 Jul 1860
Event Place Kilcormick, Wex, Ire
Father's Name Samuel Hollingsworth
Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Steacy

Citing this Record
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6R-YH7 :10 February 2018), Nicholas Hollingsworth and Anne Steacy, 26 Jul 1860; citing Kilcormick, Wex, Ire, reference 2:3Q5H54V, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 101,416.
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The following index is from Ancestry.com:

Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958

Name: George Steacy
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Date of Registration: 1873
Death Age: 80
Registration district: Gorey
Volume: 2
Page: 800
FHL Film Number: 101586

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

Original data: “Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845–1958,” Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office, Republic of Ireland. "Quarterly Returns of Deaths in Ireland with Index to Deaths.".
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A copy of the original death record for George Steacy is not available from the irishgenealogy.ie website, as death records have only been digitized thus far from the year 1878. But if you are interested in obtaining the 1873 death record for George Steacy, you can order it from the GRO in Roscommon Town, County Roscommon.

The index below is from FamilySearch:

Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name Ann Steacy
Event Type Death
Event Date 11 Aug 1903
Event Place Brockville, Leeds, Ontario
Gender Female
Age 73
Birthplace Wexford Co, Ireland
Birth Year (Estimated) 1830

Citing this Record
"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFM4-VPP : 9 March 2018), Ann Steacy, 11 Aug 1903; citing Brockville, Leeds, Ontario, yr 1903 cn 15200, Registrar General. Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,854,189.
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You may already have the death record for Ann Steacy, but in case you don’t I’ve attached a copy of the original death record. Ann’s death is actually recorded in a register book with other deaths, and spans two pages. The entry for Ann Steacy is the 11th up from the bottom of the two pages. The right-hand page shows the death is entry number 015200.

I wish I could have found more than what is in this reply Fred. But, in your continued research, if you uncover anything new, please let me know. Or if there is another record you’d like me to look for, don’t hesitate to provide the details of the person and their family you are looking.

Kind Regards,

Dave