William Hanlon of Tubbrid, Barony of Cranagh, within Urlington District

Do you know the names & date for any of the the children of your William and Elizabeth ?

The Catholic parish for the townlands of Tubbrid Upper & Lower* are in Tubbridbritain civil parish which was covered by the Catholic parish of Urlingford. The baptism records for the parish show a number of children to a William Hanlon and Elizabeth Shearman including Thomas 1806, Richard in 1809 and Margaret in 1811. Baptism records for the parish go back to 1805 marriage to 1806.

* there's another townland named Tubbrid in Co. Kilkenny in Tubbrid civil parish, Iverk Barony, Carrick on Suir PLU

Edited to Add  : On the Will Calendar entry I see children named Robert in NY, William in America and Jane...

The only substantial information is that within the Will.  I have communicated with a descendant of the New Yorker, son Robert, unaware ancestor/immigrant Robert had siblings. In reading the Will, I see that 'my beloved wife, Eliza' receives 4 heifers.... AND the lands & income at "Barna", could be Barnacole (Bearna Niocóil), Tubbrid Civil Parish, and "Tubbrid"  is  Tubbrid (Tiobraid),  Tubbrid Civil Parish (alt. Tiobraid ); source {https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/tubbrid1/}.  Does this sound right?

Re:  Children of William (1793 - 1883) I've searched all denominations' baptism/birth records without success.

I suspect the Hanlon/Shearman marriage may well be the grandparents of New Yorker Robert (b. c. 1832), and have the 3 baptisms '06, '09, 11. Given that Urlington RC Parish records commence 1805, where would earlier baptisms and marrigage be performed?

If William were RC, which Parish Church for 1883 burial? If Protestant, New-Brethren or Church of Ireland, which Church in Urlingford DED?  There might be an informative headstone somewhere.

I find a William Hanlon 1831 Tithe Defaulter who could be him. Ditto Griffiths. However, it seems by the Will that he had at least 2 rural interests, in Barna & Tubbrid. Is there a way to determine the date of the Will, rather than 'proved' date?  That way we can adjust for any re-naming of Parishes, or changes in boundaries.

Hanlon, of course, is a Leinster name; Co. Armagh, spreading from Killeavy-Mullaghbawn area outwards. It there any timeline of spread within Ireland of the Hanlon name?

Thank you for your support

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Hi,
The only Edward (Edw)Hanlon I found was in Ballingarry, North Tipperary in the Tithe records. in the mid 1830's.

But this may help.
This is from Family search, may even be yours. This says he was from Kilkenny. 
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsu…

Below are records of the family. Eliza's death etc.
Their daughter married Joseph Holmes.
If you use the info from here and trace where the next line of people are.
Margaret was born in Odagh, County Kilkenney and went to Canada. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

Margot

re your reply - Tubbrid Civil Parish is located near Carrick on Suir, whereas the will specifically mentions the Barony of Cranagh so must refer to the Tubbrid townlands, Upper and Lower, in the civil parish of Tubbridbritain which is close to Urlingford (his death cert states place of death Tubbrid Upper and Urlingford Registration District). The two civil parishes - Tubbrid and Tubbridbritain both have townlands named Tubbrid. DEDs are electoral districts, more relevant to church records are the civil and Ecclesiastical parishes. As mentioned earlier the Catholic parish for Tubbridbritain is Urlingford and as is the case for many parishes it dates back further back than the available records - likely that either no earlier written records were kept, or these have been lost (the average starting date to records for Catholic parishes in rural areas is about 1830).

There are several William Hanlons listed in Griffith's primary valuation in Co. Kilkenny, but the one I believe best matches the William mentioned in the Will is the one at Tubbrid (Upper) townland Tubbridbritain civil parish Cranagh barony, leasing house, offices (i.e. work buildings) and just over 161 acres of land from Arthur St. George esq., the entry is dated 1849. I dont believe either of the two William Hanlons in Co. Kilkenny on the Tithe Defaults is 'your' William .. neither is in or near Tubbridbritain.

The Catholic parish of Urlingford had at least three chapels including one in the town of Urlingford, likely the parish church, the other chapels were at Garranconnell & Clomantagh. There doesn't appear to be a graveyard beside the church in Urlingford, possibly the burials took place in an shared graveyard (with Church of Ireland) - i.e. pre-reformation.

For the Church of Ireland, Tubbridbritain civil parish was part of the union of Aghoure or Freshford along with a number of other civil parishes. The parish church was in the town of Freshford, built in 1730. Early records for the parish are noted as lost, probably in the records office during the civil war, but some for later dates, 1846 onward, are available on RootsIreland (pay-website) as transcripts, there appears to be some earlier details for the parish held by the RCB Library. Some records for the area may also be available in the registers for Clomantagh CofI parish (one of the civil parishes which was part of Aghoure / Freshford), which are available back to 1829.

The transcript of the Will included details of the declaration dated 30th November 1879, witnessed by the Testator i.e. William and witnesses.

p.s. there's no townland named Barna in Tubbridbritain civil parish, but there is a townland of this name in the adjacent (civil) parish of Clomantagh. There's no sign of a property occupied or leased by William in this townland - maybe he acquired this after the Primary Valuation ?

The Tithe Applotment records for the parish of Tubbridbritian have been mis-indexed on the NAI & FamilySearch website - they are mixed in with the details for a separate parish of Tubbrid in Co. Tipperary. You can browse the correct images at this link - the entries for the townland continue on the next page. No sign of any Hanlon's with eligible land at that time (1833)...

Your initial post interests me.  My family tree has a Hanlon branch.  Ellen Hanlon born 1837 in County Cork to Richard and Margaret (Connors).  I believe my Richard is the one you reference as a son of William and Elizabeth.  I have been unable to locate any document naming his parents.  I am wondering if someone can help with that?  

Any assistance is much appreciated.

Colleen O'Gorman

For those of you looking for the Robert Hanlon (born 1839?) that moved to New York, that should be my great great grandfather that came from Kilkenny, and I am thinking he came in through

Canada as he married an Elizabeth Taylor from Canada although her family was Irish, had several children the oldest sone named William, my great grandmother Mary Ruth, Elizabeth,Clara,Robert and Charles.

I believe my Robert is from the Holmes line.  Still researching all of it.