Jacksons of Tartaraghan

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have you seen my William?

Rebecca VERNER b abt. 1809 wed William JACKSON.  Rebecca Verner lived in Derryadd  wed in 3/22/1837, parish Tartaraghan to William Jackson of Derryane and had a baby several months later. They had Marjorie Jackson b. 1837 and Martin Verner Jackson b. 1841 and William James Jackson b.1839. 

So my belief was Wm. Jackson was older and died in Ireland.   I have not found parents of either of Rebecca or William.  William might have been wed before.  Family lore said he was an estate caretaker and she a daughter of Churchill estate. 

At Tartaraghan in Armagh there is a tombstone of Wm Jackson of Derryane with children listed, none being Rebecca’s as they all came to Pa in the US.  Maybe it is him and his 1st wives’ children. I found a wm Jackson b1785 Newton Hamilton Armagh wed McKinsrty in 1818 of Armagh.  All these placers are fairly close.

Marjorie Jackson b. 1837 came to western Pennsylvania as a teen.  Family lore said her mother barely recognized her at this arrival to PA USA and Rebecca’s surname was now Smith and she was widowed, supposedly of Potty Smith.

Hi im trying to get in contact with maryeliza if she could email me that would be great.. jadey983@gmail.com

I have forwarded your details to maryeliza

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

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Rebecca Verner was my GGG aunt, and I hope wilbsmeltz will see this message. I have information on her parents, obtained from living Verner cousins who I will visit in Portadown, Armagh this coming May 2017. The post above has given me additional information on her and her family which is very helpful, especially since I was not even focusing on her until today, when I made a DNA connection with a descendant of hers on Ancestry.com, and that person had no information on her other than the names of her husband and their three children.

Dear Susan:

Many thanks for your post to Ireland Reaching Out.

Hopefully wilbsmeltz will see this mesaage.  I will keep an eye out for any response.

Kind regards,

Jane.

Susan,  write me wilbsmeltz@comcast.net we saw verner's bridge in armagh & went to church in milltown wher wm & rebecca's child was the 1st child baptized.  we were taken to a cottage that every1 thought was the jacksons.  they found a pic & hung it in their dining room.  the churchill mantel is at the order of orange lodge-i'd like a pic if you get there.     i have als so typing is hard. i have photos 2-margo

Hi Margo, I will write to your email directly, thanks! FYI to you and any other Verners who read this: The Verners who are presently living in Portadown (having moved from the old family homes in Derryadd and Derryane) say that it is LIKELY that Verners of the non-titled family are related to the titled Verners of Churchill (such as those for whom the bridge was named), but there is NO actual proof or documentation to be found at this time. I have a PDF document with a lot of Verner history (most of it on the titled family) that I will send you, Margo, written by Mervyn Gilmour (my 3C1R) -- he is a son of Mabel Verner born about 1902.

My second cousin Jim Verner, who lives in PIttsburgh, PA, has taken a Y-DNA test and joined the Varner/Verner Surname Project at FTDNA. The administrator of that group, Foy Varner, says that Jim's and my Verner line does connect to the Scots-Irish group of that name, and the test results show that we are also related to Verners who were in County Tyrone, near Castlederg, but no one has had the time or ability to figure out that connection yet.

I am grateful to Ireland Reaching Out for this wonderful message board service. Because of it, I will be able to meet relatives who live near Dublin when we visit there this coming May. An Irish third cousin just happened to be googling his name one day just to see what he'd find on himself, and my post on Ireland Reaching Out came up. (I had listed the descendants of his County Down LAIRD line on that message board.) He posted back with his contact info, and now we're connected. It is really wonderful to be able to connect with living Irish relatives, as I am completely Scots-Irish on my paternal grandmother's side, with more also on my mother's maiden name line (McFADDEN, County Cavan). Thank you!

Dear Susan:

Many thanks for your kind words and it is always a pleasure to read a success story from the message board.  A big thank you to all of those on the message board who volunteer their time and effort --particularly those such as the members who respond and share information.

I hope that you have a wonderful trip to Ireland and every best wish to you with your research!

Jane