John Nicholson b 1843

Hi Gaffa,

Was John Nicholson on the 1881/91 UK census records?

What parish were they married in? Was it in Ireland? What age were they? In order to find birth records, it would greatly help if you had a more precise place of origin.

Here are some records you could checking:

Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

You can check for information about the frequency of the name in the mid-19th century and any other variant spellings of the name here: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.

The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. the tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

1843 Voters list. National Archives of Ireland (NAI) 1843/71 (Cavan)

1851 Some certified copies of census returns for use in old age pensions. NAI. (Cavan)

1837 Voters. NLI. Ms.1398 (Kildare)

1843 Voters. NAI. OP 1843/53

Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

Kind regards,

Sinead Cooney

Genealogist (Ireland XO)

Hi Sinead,

They moved to Liverpool before the 1881 Census, so giving that information is NOT going further back.

Regards

Gaffa

Hi Gaffa,

You might try 

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/default.htm

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm

Some records for Kildare and Cavan are available for a fee from : 

http://kildare.rootsireland.ie/

http://cavan.rootsireland.ie/

All the best