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Hi my 3rd great grandfather is James r8ce (1802-1878) he had 2 daughters Anne and Mary. Mary was born 1845 and married William Bradfield. Anne is my 2nd great grandmother she married in 1861 ballinaboy to Thomas good of littlesilver Bandon. He died in 1867 and she married Edward bird in 1869. There is a death for Anne in 1879 aged 49 but I'm not certain it is her. Edward died in 1903 aged 61 at knocknaglaugh. The good family are church of Ireland and I thought the rices were too but I've found a Samuel rice at gogganshill in 1901 census as roman Catholic. He could be a sibling or relative of Anne's. I would like to know where I can find more links to the family as I don't know who James rice married. Thanks. Regards John in wicklow

John Tyner

Sunday 27th Dec 2015, 09:21PM

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  • Hi John

    Here's an 1845 baptism for Mary Rice

    Name:Mary RiceDate of Birth:

    Date of Baptism:16-Feb-1845Address:PaulstownParish/District:PAULSTOWNGender:FemaleCountyCo. Kilkenny

    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:James RiceMother:Mary BrennanOccupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Patrick LalorSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Catherine Walsh

    Here are all children to James & Mary:

    Church Baptism Rice Mary1845Co. Kilkenny
    Church Baptism Rice Elizabeth1843Co. Kilkenny
    Church Baptism Rice Margaret1841Co. Kilkenny
    Church Baptism Rice John1840Co. Kilkenny
    Church Baptism Rice Arthur1838Co. Kilkenny
    Church Baptism Rice Mary1836Co. Kilkenny

    Col

     

     

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 28th Dec 2015, 06:16AM
  • Thanks col. I'm looking for Anne also. There is a sister Sarah Alice rice born abt 1847 and Samuel abt 1846. Could be Catholic but not sure. Would love to find James will if he had one from the 1870s. Thanks for checking.
    John

    John Tyner

    Monday 28th Dec 2015, 10:56PM
  • Happy New Year John

    Here's a possible record for Ann:

    Name:Ann RiceDate of Birth:

    Date of Baptism:03-Mar-1855Address:BallyhoolyParish/District:CASTLETOWNROCHEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork

    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John RiceMother:Bridget SullivanOccupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Michael HalleganSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Ellen Connor

    Notes:

    E
    PRIEST:JOHN FITZPATRICK

    Here are some others for these parents:

    Church BaptismRiceJames1849Co. Cork
    Church BaptismRicePatrick1850Co. Cork

    Church BaptismRiceElizabeth1852Co. Cork
    Church BaptismRiceMary1853Co. Cork
    No luck with Sarah or Samuel.

    www.irishgenealogy.ie/ has Cork records (free site)

    Here's a possible will reference:

    http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014915/005014…

    The entry reads:

    RICE James (104) 26 May Probate of the Will of James Rice late of Ballynagrumolia Ballinhassig Cork Farmer died 10 Jan 1878 granted at Cork to George Rice Farmer Effects $30 (pounds not $)

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 30th Dec 2015, 04:03AM
  • Hi John,

    I have just seen your post my 3 great(s) grandfather was Samuel Rice (Protestant) who lived at one stage in Mallow, Co Cork, he died on 17th Feb 1869 aged 78 years... I have a little more information but I cannot definitively say they are brothers...

    Regards,
    T.

    T.McC

    Friday 8th Jan 2016, 12:04AM
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    Hi John, I found the will of James Rice d.1878 in the National Archives Dublin. He bequeaths all including lands (130acres) of Ballinagrumoolia to his only son George. In 1908 (30 yrs later) George Rice Rathmnacullig applied for grant of probate, the other executor Willian Bardfield d.1904. Sometime after 1908 the occupier of this land changed to Richard Hayne.
    1833 Tithe Applotment  James Rice Rathmacullig 25 acres, 1838 Mary eldest daughter of George Rice Rathmacullig marries George White Friars Walk. So maybe a sister of James. James died 10 Jan 1878 of heart disease aged 76 yrs, Eliza Rice present at death Brier Hill.  Another weird bit George Rice was 58 in 1901 so born 1843, (died 1922 aged 78yrs)  cork & ross .ballinhassig.p4795.005.13   12 Feb 1843 George of George Rice and Mary Sweeney (not married).
    The Rice's on my side still live in Goggins Hill and tracing the land as in Griffith James Rice Goggins Hill 80 acres went to Robert Rice b.1819 my GGgrandfather then to his son Samuel b.1847 then his son Robert.
    This Robert Rice b.1819 also had land in Tulligmore which he sold to a Robert Rice Cahergal in 1894 this confused me for a long time,this Robert was born 2 Feb 1833 to James and Sarah Rice Parish of Inniskenny.
    St Nicholas, Cork parish records COI 1819-1844 .. 16 Feb 1833 James Rice Farmer Old Abbey marries Sarah Rice Ballinaboy.
    Old Abbey was in the parish of Inniskenny (near Viaduct)
    1846 James Rice Iniskenny widower married Anne Wolfe Ballinaboy groom's father Robert Rice
    Robert Rice b1833 lived in Cork where he owned several Houses /property and 2 pubs in the Dillions Cross area, he never lived in Tulligmore his sons went to Canada eventually a grandson returned to Tulligmore.
    They are connected to Brier Hill in some way as they have a photo of a Tom Rice Fermoy that came from the house in Brier Hill also a hand written note on the marriages of Annie and Mary attached.
    I can email you any of these records

    murchu54

    Wednesday 30th Nov 2016, 12:27AM
  • hi murchu, thankyou so much for all this info, that is wonderful! i would like you to email this information you have found.

    i have since found george and his wife elizabeth busteed who must have been the informant on james death cert which i have.

    i have traced most of george's children. they seemed to have married different people with surname GOOD!

    i still dont quite understand how all the people you mention fit together so would like that sorted out so i can better understand it in family tree format!

    from what you say i think you mean samuel(b 1847)  is son of robert?

    correct me if im wrong. i did see the marriage of james rice to sarah rice but havent confirmed that is my line as of yet as anne seems to have been born in 1830, it is now confirmed that the 1879 death is correct for my anne rice. my distant cousin from canada came over this year and she did some searching and found some certs which helped.

    thats all for now, its late here.

    my email is johntyner2001"at"yahoo.com replace the at with @

    regards

    John

    John Tyner

    Wednesday 30th Nov 2016, 11:57PM
  • Hi John, hope all is well, not sure if you have this info about James Rice Brier Hill who died 1878,
    24 Feb 1870 James Rice Esq. widower Brier Hill (father's name George Rice) marries Elizabeth Wolfe Coolcraheen House Rosscarbery in the Parish Church of Castle Ventry. James died 1878, Eliza was present at his death and she held a dog licence in Ballynagroomlia 1879-1880. 1901 census; Elizabeth Rice age 75 is living with her sister's family William and Aphra (Wolfe) Shorten at Coolcraheen also there is their father John Wolfe . Elizabeth dies there 31st Oct 1907. This might explain why the probate of James's will happened 30 yrs after his death .

    murchu54

    Saturday 20th May 2017, 11:35AM
  • Hi John in Cork until 22nd August if you happen to be in the area would be good to catch up .kieran

    murchu54

    Thursday 9th Aug 2018, 08:43AM
  • Hi. I dont think i will be in cork at this time. Thank you for thinking of me though. Im on the east coast in wicklow.
    John

    John Tyner

    Friday 10th Aug 2018, 08:11AM
  • I am responding to T.McC re Samuel Rice: he is also a gt gt gt grandfather of mine, & I am guessing that you may be a McCormick. My grandmother was a McCormick. Samuel Rice died Feb 17, 1859, at the age of 78 years; his wife Catherine Rice died Jan 26, 1858; they are buried in Mt Jerome Cemetary, south of Dublin, in the John McCormick grave. John McCormick, Methodist, married Eliza/Elizabeth Rice in Buttevant, on Nov 22, 1838. Eliza Rice was born July 4, 1813, & died Feb 6, 1881.

    Does this sound like your family too?

    Dawn

    DHarrow1@aol.com

    Dawn

    Saturday 27th Jul 2019, 04:54PM

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