~~I am looking for any information I can find concerning the Canty and Holahan, Holland Families/Name. I have been looking for information for a few years and finally have found what I believe is the Parish that can add valuable information and can cement where the Canty's from San Francisco come from and the possibility that I still have relatives in the Bantry area of Co Cork Ireland.
Michael Canty my great, great grandfather who was born between 1815 and 1820. He stated in a bank record he was from Killinaboge 5 miles from Bantry Co Cork. The writing is hard to read so Killinaboge could be anything except I found three other bank records of interest. They also come from a place that was hard to read but similar to Killinaboge.
Don't know if they are related to Michael Canty but there are just too many similarities. Like a 1950 census that shows a Johanna Canty (age 59) living with Michael (age 36) and his wife Ann (age 24). Also living with them is John Holland (age 56). It is here that a clue happened. Johanna Canty in Timothy Canty's record states his mother is Johanna Holland.
Johanna Canty (Born 1785-1795 purely guessing)
It states that she is a native of killananogs (that's what I make out of it), parish of Durrus, Co Cork. Four years in U.S. per Ship Louisiana. Husband dead in Cork 4 years Nov. 4 sons Danl & ? in California. Timothy and ? live in New York. 2 Daughters Julia and Ellen. is Mrs. Ellen Regan
Timothy Canty (Born 1820-1825
The next record belongs to Timothy Canty. Native of Killananague-5 miles from West Bantry Co Cork. In U.S. since 14 Sept 1846. Father Ned dead. Mother Johanna Holland in U.S. Single- 2 brothers in California Ned and Daniel. 1 brother in New York Michel
2 sisters in New York Ellen and Julia
Mrs. Ellen Regan
I found it by accident just below Timothy Canty. Native of Same as 802. hard to read looks like 11 years in U.S. per ship ? from London. Married in London. 6 (could be children abbreviated) looks like names of children Father Ned Canty dead, Mother Johanna Holland, sister to Timothy Canty account # 802.
What I found interesting is that the town they all come from is very similar in what I can make out of the spelling. Michael states 5 miles from Bantry Co Cork. Timothy states 5 miles from West Bantry Co Cork. The difference seems to be only the mention of West that Timothy mentions. Johanna mentions a Town similar but also mentions parish of Durrus, Co Cork.
I believe they are all related one way or another. And I am betting that his mother is Johanna Canty.
Any information or direction would be greatly appreciated.
Good regards to all
Charles (Charlie) Canty
Caldwell, Idaho USA
r49miner
Sunday 26th Jan 2014, 05:49PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Charlie,
Have you looked at irishgenealogy.ie , many of the church records from the mid 1800's are there. I can't find a birth record for your Michael as hie birth was probablt before they began but this could be him acting as a sponsor http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm…
And I believe this is the townland you are looking for https://www.google.ie/maps/preview/place/KILLOVEENOGE/@51.6469608,-9.56…
I am not sure if there are any Canty's in that townland still, but there certainly are in Bantry.
Danny
dannytobin
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~~Danny
Thank you for taking the to help out. I am embarrassed to say I know nothing of the Canty family here in the USA, nor of the history and the way of life in Ireland, which is a sin in it's self. Hope you can make since of my ramblings.
Michael Canty after leaving New York moved to San Francisco. All the Canty's that were related lived in San Francisco at one time. There were other Canty's in San Francisco but I do not know if they were related. All the history I know of my family I got on line. I even learned of my brothers death 3 years prior. I actually found 5 family members (that I grew up around) deaths. My father did see his brothers from time to time and his Father. But as to his uncles, aunts, grandfather and great grandfather, although they all lived in the same town never visited that I knew of. So I never met them.
My father did tell me once that I was Irish and we came from Co Cork. The other tidbit of information he gave me was that at one time we had another part to our name. Like O' Canty, Mc Canty or Mac Canty. He didn't know just that we had more to the name. He also stated that we had to leave Ireland for horse steeling or something. I think that was to add a little drama or flavor as to why we migrated to the USA.
You may have uncovered something I would have passed up because not knowing the relationship. But by finding that record it introduced Maria Regan, Jerh Regan and Ellan Canty. Later in the 1800's we find a Mrs. Ellen Regan. I still don't know the relationship of all the party's but it is another piece of the puzzle.
Thanks again for the information.
Kind Regards
Charlie
r49miner
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Hi Charles,
Interesting to see your email. From Ancestry, my Great Great Great Great Grandfather is a Canty (Thomas) from Durruss (spelt Durress in records). Born about 1801 and had a son in London in 1823. Married a lady called Ann (no surname or birthdates given) but presumed also from Cork. The son (also Thomas) married a lady from Dublin called Mary Bennett. This throws no further light on your search, but intersting to swap stories. I don't know if you've tried Ancestry, but if you have names and dates of birth, even approximate ones, it's pretty good up to 1800 (free trial available) - but I think it's pot luck whether someone else has started to build a family tree. Good luck in your search. Best wishes, Frank.
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Frank
Sorry I have not answered till now. I would like to swap stories.
Are you living in the U.S.? I am living in Idaho but I am originaly from California born and raised. Have you found out any more information about you ancestors?
Thanks Charlie
r49miner
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Charlie,
Whilst there aren't any record of Canty's in Killoveenoge in any of the Griffith's Valuation (1853), Tithe Applotment Books (~1830) or 1901/1911 censuses, there is reference to a John Canty renting in the neightbouring Clashadoo and Gearhameen townlands in 1853. He may be the one guy?? The Luke Canty in Clashadoo in 1901 may well be the same Luke with this baptismal record.
There is also a reference to a Lewis Conty [sic] in the 1830 TABs for Clashadoo...
You'll see a reference to the birth of a Jerh Canty, father Lewis, in 1812 here. I expect the townland is Gorteanish, Kilcrohane, which isn't too far away... You will see that be married Catherine Kelly who was born in 1822.
Might be something there.....
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Jerryob
Thank you for the information.
Using irishgenealogy.ie I have found records in Durrus mentioning Killoveenoge and some of my relitives. My gg grandfathers immediate family I believe was completely out of Ireland by 1848. The best records I have found still remain the New York Immigrant Bank Test Records through Ancestry. By looking up each person identified as Canty and reviewing the remarks section for each person I can eliminate some and identify others as family. The records mention family members within the remarks, where they came from and what ships they traveled on. There were about four different ways, whom ever wrote the information, spelled Killoveenoge and even then it was hard to read and the priest's in Durrus haven't done much better LOL.
Jerryob Thanks Again
r49miner
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I forgot to mention that my ggg grandmothers name has been spelled many ways Holahan, Hoolahan, Holland and others have been found.
r49miner
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Hi r49miner
I'm a Canty in the UK In an earlier post Frank Page mentioned Thomas Canty from Durrus.
This person is i believe my 5x grt grandfather.
He is shown in the census of 1851 at the age of 50. He was a visitor of a house in Greycoat street Westminster London.
His son Thomas is shown as being born 19th march 1823 in Westminster.
I do not know the full name of his wife only listed as Anne and his birth place as Durrus.
I would like to be able to definitively say that he is my ancestral link to Ireland but like you i'm having problems finding any documentation of his parents or siblings, when he left Ireland and when.
It would great if our Canty familys are linked.
Infomation on my Canty family tree is on Ancestry Uk
Nigel.
Tiscanty
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Nigel
I am on Ancestry, I also had a Ancestry DNA test, I also have DNA test results on Gedmatch.com
I found my relative information through irishgenealogy.ie it was difficult because of the spelling differances between now and back then. In order to get information out you have to be creative. My Thomas Canty died in 1841 in Killoveenoge. His family left for the U.S. in the 1840's at different times, ships but they all left to my knowledege.
My wife and I went to the Bantry area and stayed in a B & B. It is two mines South West of Bantry on the Sheeps Head Penensula.
Dympna Crowley,
Dromcloc House,
Bantry, Co.Cork, Ireland
Tel. 027 50030.
www.dromclochouse.com
email. info@dromclochouse.com
gps:51.66824 -9.49994Three miles from there is Killoveenoge. We met some very nice people there who tried to help us locate where my family lived. unfortunatelt 175 years can change an area. I have not given up but I'm not the best to find records.
Thank you for replying. My Tree is closed on Ancestry but I'm willing to invite if we have any kind of connection.
Charles T Canty
r49miner
r49miner
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Charles
Thanks for the information on the sheeps head.
As you know trying to find connection is a bit of a task as Canty's seemed to have left Ireland splitting some familys up with brothers, sisters and parents either going to the US or the UK finding documented links back is a bit of a task.
Thanks again
Nigel Canty
Tiscanty