My Great Grandparents, Eugene Stack and Mary Hennessey Stack are shown in Griffiths Land Eval. as renting in Ballyrusheen, Kilbrin, Duhallow, CORK. (I hope that's the correct order). Eugene was born c.1817, and Mary c. 1821. They married about 1844, and had 4 children in Ireland: Hannah (c.1846), Mathew (c.1848), Edward (c.1849) and Eugene (c.1850) I believe Eugene was a shoemaker/bootmaker. In 1852, Eugene left to go to (Kirkland, Oneida) New York, USA, and a year later, Mary followed with the children. ( They had had five more children in Kirkland, and their son William is my Grandfather) Eugene's brother, Edward Stack c. 1819 married Ellen LInnihan, c. 1920. Edward also shown in Griffiths as renting at the same time in Ballyrusheen, and he had immigrated to New York a year before Eugene.
I have looked for ANY information on Eugene and Mary before Griffiths, and can find nothing; No immigration or passage records, no Birth or Baptism or Marriage records NO idea of their parents' names: Eugene and Mary were Roman Catholic in the US. Eugene and Edward both named their first sons, Matthew...so I have looked for a Matthew Stack as their own father. Nothing. I have tried IFHF for marriage records for Eugene and Mary, and Baptismal records, but since I DO NOT KNOW whether they were born in Cork, it is impossible to guess which ones might be correct! If you can possibly help me, in any way, I would be very, very grateful!
I am the last surviving Stack in Eugene's line,and if I don't accomplish finding their ancestry, no one will!
Thursday 20th Jun 2013, 12:48AM
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Hi,
Thank you very much for your message. I hope that someone with information on the family makes a connection with you and helps you with your research.
Sometimes doing family history research in Ireland can be very frustrating especially if you do not have a definite parish of origin.
Church records for Kilbrin/Ballyclough parish begin as early as 1807 so if Eugene was born/married there, there will be a record of it:
Perhaps it may be an idea to contact the local parish priest directly to see if he can be of any assistance to you. Here is a link to their contact page:
http://www.cloynediocese.ie/parishes/parish-details/?page=ddb_parish_details&parishID=6
There are some places where you can search online, however as you pointed out it is difficult to know if the results are relevant without more information.
www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.
www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ have begun a project to upload Irish church records to their site free of charge. So far in Cork only the Catholic Diocese of Cork and Ross have been uploaded. Kilbrin belongs to the Diocese of Cloyne, however it may be worth checking in case they were not born in Kilbrin.
Have you heard of the Tithe Applotment Books? These are earlier land records dating 1823-38. I did a search for Stack?s in Kilbrin and a result came back for Patrick Stack:
Some other websites that you may find useful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
Cork Past and Present: www.corkpastandpresent.ie
Genealogy links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/cork/index.html
Cork Archives: http://www.corkarchives.ie/genealogy/
Irish Newspaper Archives: http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/
The US National Archives: http://www.archives.gov/
Failte Romhat: www.failteromhat.com
Sorry I couldn?t be of more assistance. Hopefully someone will contact you with more information. Please be patient - as our programme has only begun to rollout across the island of Ireland and volunteers in some areas may not yet be organized.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support
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Just a few more specific details that I DO know:
Eugene and Mary Hennessey Stack were married in County Cork; they had nine children: Hannah, Mathew, Edward and Eugene were born in Ireland, John, William, Mary, Nancy (aka Annie) and Thomas were born in Kirkland, Oneida Co., NY, USA between 1854 and c. 1860. Eugene and Mary immigrated to New York State about 1852/1853 to the town of Kirkland (later Clinton) in Oneida County. Eugene was a shoemaker/bootmaker, working for a D. Thomas in Kirkland. He also farmed. He died in 1887, and Mary died in c. 1890.
Hannah remained a Spinster, Mathew served in The Union Army, State of NY during the Civil War, survived and came home, and later left again to travel to British Columbia with a group of men going to find gold. He was never heard of again.
Edward I have no information on, *** except that he was learning Wagon Making (There was a James Stack in the next town, who was a Wagonmaker, but I do not know if they were related in any way). Eugene entered the French Christian Brothers, and died in Chicago, IL. while teaching at DeLaSalle H.S. John died at the age of about 17; William (my Grandfather, moved to Chicago, IL. and became a Police Officer. He married Annie Enright in 1907, and they had 4 children: Anne, William, Mary Eileen, and Clinton John (my father). William died on Dec. 31, 1929.
Mary married John Thornton, also of Kirkland, in 1887. Hannah lived with them until she died . Annie married a William O'Flaherty in c. 1898, and they ran a boarding house in Evanston, Illinois. Thomas disappeared from the Census records after the age of one. I assume he died before the age of ten as he was not in the next Census.
IF I could find the name of Eugene's parents, or even Mary Hennesseys parents, that would be a Miracle...and a blessing!
***I have since found records for Edward Stack, who moved to Illinois, married a woman named "Mary" from Ireland, worked on the RR, and died at the age of 48.
Eileen
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A genealogist recently told me that I should look for an OWEN STACK, as Owen was another, or earlier form of the name EUGENE. She also pointed me to re-search IFHF with that new name.
I found a record of a marriage between OWEN STACK and MARY HENNESSEY in February of 1843, in CASTLEMAGNER, and that matches the date of their marriage that I had assumed was correct. their first daughter Johannah was born and baptized in Castlemagner in 1844, and Mathew, Edward and John followed, being baptized in Ballyclough. Those dates also agree with dates I previously had! NO parents names :(
Anyone there in Ireland XO who can see a connection to families or records or resources?
Eileen
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EMMA CARTY: I am SO sorry that I never "Thanked You" for all your excellent resources; I am so obsessed with finding something more about my GreatGrandparents, the Stacks and Hennesseys, that I forgot my manners! I do appreciate you taking the time to point me in the right directions, and the effort to help me find some answers. What would all of us displaced irish do without those "Angels" trying to help us find the way back???
Eileen Stack Murray
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EMMA CARTY: I am SO sorry that I never "Thanked You" for all your excellent resources; I am so obsessed with finding something more about my GreatGrandparents, the Stacks and Hennesseys, that I forgot my manners! I do appreciate you taking the time to point me in the right directions, and the effort to help me find some answers. What would all of us displaced irish do without those "Angels" trying to help us find the way back???
Eileen Stack Murray
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EMMA CARTY: I am SO sorry that I never "Thanked You" for all your excellent resources; I am so obsessed with finding something more about my GreatGrandparents, the Stacks and Hennesseys, that I forgot my manners! I do appreciate you taking the time to point me in the right directions, and the effort to help me find some answers. What would all of us displaced irish do without those "Angels" trying to help us find the way back???
Eileen Stack Murray