Am looking for any help in identifying my McCarthy line. My 1stGgrandfather, Francis McCarthy was born abt 1859 in Cork. Family stories say our line comes from the Ballyhooly area. I know nothing about the family in Ireland. What I do know is Francis "Frank" came to the US abt 1880 to NY city where he worked as a horseshoer until his death in Oct, 1900 at the age of 41. While here he met and married Margaret Griffin, who was born in Killeagh/Youghal area. All I know abt her is she was born abt.1872/1875 and came over here to NY 1890-92, She married twice. Frank abt 1892 and had my grandfather, Richard Francis McCarthy(b. 1895) and again 1901-02 and had a second child, Frederick C. Miller(b.1903). She was widowed again abt 1905 and returned to Ireland with both boys in 1905-06. Her father's name was Richard Griffin and no mother is named on her death certificate. Frank's death record states his parents names as Martin and Bridget/Ireland. I do not know how accurate this may be as Margaret was 13-15 years younger than Frank and he had been away from Ireland along time.
There is no 1911 census record so far showing where my grandfather, Richard McCarthy and my 1stGgrandmother, Margaret were living in Ireland. My granduncle Fred Miller(age8) is in the 1911 census living with Mary and William Wall in Knocknamaderee, Killathy. Mary Wall is also in the 1901 census with her first husband, Maurice McCarthy and their children, Jeremiah, Ellen,John, Margaret and Mary. All these children minus John and with the addition of a Richard Wall(age5) are in the 1911 Mary and William Wall census record. I would like to find out if Maurice was Frank's brother? Was Mary ,Margaret Griffin's sister or sister in law? Are there any records of a Martin and Bridget McCarthy? Did Frank have any other brothers or sisters? My only US living McCarthy relative has been to Ireland and has had contact with a distant relative Jude Cleary(we cannot reach her right now)who is connected to us through her mother(a Peg McCarthy). Her father, I believe would need to be a McCarthy. Could it be this Margaret (?Peg) McCarthy is Maurice's daughter? Not sure. When she visited Ireland, this distant relative took my aunt to Killathy Cemetery and showed her 3? grave stones and told my aunt " these are our relatives.."...all men I think. Not Sure. In November, 1920, my 1stGgrandmother, Margaret Griffin McCarthy Miller returned to the US with Fred(age 18). Her passenger record states her passage was paid by her "sister M. Wall". Could two sisters have married two brothers? Any help re: these questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Kathy
Friday 24th May 2013, 08:28PM
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Hi Kathy
I don't know anything about Ballyhooly but I have passed on your request to a friend who is meeting a McCarthy man, originally from Ballyhooly, in the near future. She is going to give him your details. I can't guarantee that it will give you any answers but its worth a try. Will get back to you if anything interesting turns up.
Best wishes
Brenda Hennessy
Kildorrery Ireland Reaching Out
Kildorrery Cork
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Brenda, thank you so much. Truly appreciate any help. Best wishes to you as well. Kathy Beebie
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Since leaving my original message on May 24, I have received more information about my Killathy McCarthy line. Apparently, Maurice McCarthy of Knocknamaderee (1901 Census), Killathy was the brother to my greatgrandfather, Francis J. McCarthy. Maurice's wife, Mary, was a Griffin from Killeagh. My maternal greatgrandmother, Margaret was also a Griffin and was Mary's sister. Apparently, two brothers married two sisters. Mary and Maurice in Ireland. Frank and Maggie in America. Our distant relative in Ireland, Jude Cleary reports that our McCarthy's are from the Knocknamaderee and Cappagh areas of Killathy. My research in Griffiths and Tithe Applottment records show the following:
Richard McCarthy in 1851 in Cappagh, Killathy; John and Thomas McCarthy in 1851 in Ballyhooly. Did not find a McCarthy in Knocknamaderee, at that time. In 1837, a Richard McCarthy is a landholder in Cappagh; a Patrick and Darby McCarthy are landholders in Knocknamaderee. Are there any ways I can connect these guys. Could Patrick , Darby and Richard be brothers or brothers and cousins? Which one...Cappagh or Knocknamaderee McCarthys...are my line? Would really love any help in trying to sort through this or get ideas on where to search next. Kathy
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Can anyone tell me how close the townlands or areas of Cappagh...Knocknamaderee...and Cregg South are geograpphically? Walking distance...horseriding distance...cars...? Thanks
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Hi Kathy
My friend sent your query on to Oliver McCarthy and received the following reply:
Hi Catherine
Just gave quick look over information supplied. There may be some connection at 1st glance but I will look it up. We had or have relations in NY from my grandfathers line whose father was Jeremiah. I will get back to you.RegardsOliverI have sent Catherine the update so she can pass it on. I will try to put you in contact directly with Oliver if you send me your email address to kildorrery@irelandxo.comBye for now (Slan go foill)BrendaKildorrery Cork
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Hi Kathy
Oliver will communicate directly with you. If you send on your email I can send you details.
Brenda
Kildorrery Cork
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Hi Kathy
I am wondering if you got my last message. If you want me to arrange email contact for you with Oliver you can send your email address to me at kildorrery@irelandxo.com
Best wishes
Brenda
Kildorrery Cork
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you can Google Map these places and get a route with distance in kilometers and motor vehicle driving time. I did it for Kilbrittain, Ballinspittle, and Ballymackean and got very useful results.