Flynn/Tigue

Susan:

I replied to your posting in Navan parish. Can you advise how you know that Mary from Navan married Patrick from Bantry? Your message seems to indicate that you are not sure. There is quite a distance between the two locations.

Roger McDonnell

Hello Roger.  I'm sorry if I "Over Posted" my request.  I was under the impression that I had to submit a request to each of the parishes where I thought my family might have attended church.  That is my excuse for not navigating the site correctly.  To answer your question, these are the facts of my research:  I know Mary Tigue/Tighe Flynn to be my ggg grandmother.  I have a copy of both her baptismal registry (from Navan Parish) and her death certificate (from Durham, England).  Her death certificate states that she is the widow of Patrick Flynn born in Ireland.  I am a member of Ancestory.com.  I plugged in the name "Patrick Flynn" born in 1795 and a person by that name popped up coming from Bantry, County Cork.  I've been unable to find any record of Mary's marriage to Patrick from Navan Parish.  At first, I thought this was a remote possible connection, but then I noticed that Patrick Flynn's mother was Ellen Sullivan.  I've had my DNA evaluated from Ancestory.com and was confused to find a match to a person, with a "very high" likelihood, to be my 4th - 6th cousin.  On his list of family names is the name "Sullivan".  I've had no other people from my family by that name until now.  It is probably a long shot, but I thought I'd ask you to check it out.  I have enough information on their children.  My focus question: Is there any marriage information on Mary and Patrick's marriage? and Who are his parents and where did they come from in Ireland?  Thank you so much for your effort and patience in helping me with my family search in Ireland.  Susan Hoffman

Susan:

No problem with posting in two parishes. All messages posted on individual parish pages also are shown on the main message board. There are about seven volunteers who review the messages on the main board and try to respond.

I would agree that the connection to Patrick in Bantry is a long shot. Can you tell me how long the family was in Navan? I think the reason for not finding the marriage record in Navan is that marriage records for the parish start in 1853. See this link http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0955  Baptismal records start in 1782 but there is a big gap between 1813 and 1842,

The 1854 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Navan parish does show a Patrick Flynnliving in Navan town. Possibly this is your ancestor.

Let me know if you have questions.

Roger McDonnell

Roger, the volunteer work that the 7 of you do is commendable for the purpose of keeping those connected to Ireland's history alive.  I can't thank you enough for any information you are able to uncover for me.  From what you've said, the baptismal records started in 1782, and I have a copy of Mary Tigue/Tighe Flynn's recording of her event on 11/12/1796 in Navan Parish (according to Ancestory.com - Ireland Selections of Catholic Parish Baptisms, 1742-1881).  She was archived.  If Patrick was baptized there as well, I assume it would be about the same time period as was Mary's (about 1796ish).  These events would have taken place after the beginning of the recordings and prior to the 1813-1842 gap.   As for your question concerning how long Mary's family lived in Navan, I can state that the baptismal recording shows Mary's parents to be Elizabeth Cassidy and William Tighe.  When I looked up Elizabeth Cassidy's name on Ancestory.com, a baptism comes up as 3/11/1789 in Navan.  I assume something was transcribed in error since that would have made mother Elizabeth between 7 and 9 years old when Mary was born.  I can find nothing for father William Tighe except that he is Mary's father.  Mary moves all 5 of her children to Durham England in the 1850's.  There, she spends the rest of her life.  The children's names are consistent from information I've obtained, from others having documented support, in my family.  I assume she left as a widow(or possible went searching to find a better life due to the famine) because the census records, from England, indicate that she was the head of the household raising her 5 children alone.  It is interesting that the 1854 Griffiths Valuation Head of Household Listing for Navan shows a Patrick Flynn.  I would love to have a copy of this listing and any further information you might be able to uncover.  If my request is asking for more services than what the volunteers at your organization provide, could you obtain for me a place/person that I might try to determine additional information?  Roger, thank you.

Susan  

Susan:

Here is a link to the listing  http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/meath/navan.htm   www.askabout ireland.ie can provide some more detail.

Roger

Hi Roger.  What is the year of the the Griffiths Valuation of Ireland of which you spoke in your posting?

Susan 

Susan:

The Griffiths was conducted over a 16 year period 1848-1864. Co. Meath was 1854.

Roger