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I'm trying to find my 2nd Great Grandfather who was born in Cork City, 1846 to Jerry (Jeremiah) Callahan, and Margarett Nancy Donovan.  I've had quite a bit of difficulty locating them, but only know of scarce details.  I'm an American, and this is my Dad's maternal line.  Any information would be of great help.

ARIrish69

Sunday 21st Oct 2018, 12:37AM

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  • ARIrish69:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    The records for the Diocese of Cork and Ross which includes Cork city are on the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie   I did searches for Daniel Callaghan and his parents but did not find a good match. Did Daniel have any siblings that you are aware of?  I also checked the subscription site Roots Ireland in case he was from the north and east part of Cork which is not in the Diocese of Cork and Ross and again no record.

    Did the entire family emigrate or just Daniel?

    You could add Daniel's story to our XO Chronicles site and maybe someone will see a connection. Have you considered DNA testing?

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 21st Oct 2018, 05:09PM
  • From Donie o Sullivan

    I had a look at your request but I may be of little help as the information is very limited.I did look up Daniel Callaghans in Cork on the 1901 census records and two had possibilities assuming Daniel was still in Cork.If he had emigrated before 1901 then the census records are of no use.Any idea if he emigrated or his decendants emigrated to start your line in USA.Have you looked up emigration records via passenger lists ?

    You should search "irishgenealogy.ie" where state and church records are free to search and look for deaths of Jeremiah callaghan  that might reveal something. insert Cork in the registeration district to confine your search to Cork City.As Daniel was born in 1846 you should search from then to about 1950.

    The church baptisms and marriages  are available on line also but you would need to know thw parish name to confine your search.Where did you get 1846 forthe birth of Daniel@

    Regards

    Donie

    Donie O Sullivan

    Monday 22nd Oct 2018, 06:57PM
  • The problem I have is very little information.  I have only found one record here in America from 1860, in Illinois.  He joined the Union Army at the beginning of our Civil War, and I have found some information about the unit he was with, but have not been able to find anything previous to the one Census record here.  It shows him with two people in Illinois, and they are quite a bit older than he is.  For some strange reason it lists both Jerry and Margarett as female aged 60.  I got the date of his birth from a Great Aunt on my fathers side, but don't have much information outside of this.  It's incredibly frustrating.  I don't know of any siblings, and don't know if he came alone first or with his parents.  From their ages, it appears they had him later in life of course.  I will add his information as you suggested, and hopefully I will get something that way.  I appreciate your assistance in this.  I know nothing of what happened to his parents either.  I do know that he ended up in SE Missouri after the war, but really want to know more about him prior to coming to America.

    Warmest Regards

    Jeffery Parker

    ARIrish69

    Tuesday 23rd Oct 2018, 06:43PM
  • Hello jeffery

    From what you posted it seems that Daniel and his parents emigrated to the Usa and are on a census there .what year was the census taken (1860 ?)and what was his age on it.?.It is most likely the older couple were his parents ,did it say anything more about them eg country of origin, head of family,wife,son etc,years married ,It could easily be an eror that Jerry is listed as a female.If they were 60 in 1860then born c.1800 and most catholic parish records in Ireland go back to about 1830 as religious freedom for catholics was achieved in 1829. Their marriage could be recorded but doubtful. Have you traced heir death certificates and also Daniels  was Daniel born in USA or Ireland? Im not sure what passenger lists are available for c.1860 or the years before that. .have you looked up naturalisation records for USA assuming the 3 of them became citizens.

    Regards

    Donie

    Donie O Sullivan

    Thursday 25th Oct 2018, 07:47AM
  • Jeffery

    Just noticed in your first post that Daniel was born in 1846 in Cork City so that answers some questions.They were in USA in 1860 so emigrated  between 1846-1860. There should be passenger lists for that period. If Daniel was their oldest child then they may have married about 1844-1845 and parish records should be available.With a bit of work you should be able to find out more in Cork.

    Donie

    Donie O Sullivan

    Thursday 25th Oct 2018, 08:00AM
  • Hi, Jeffery! 

    Your Daniel Callahan appears in several very nice family trees on Ancestry...including this one by that very name:

    https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/2105962/family?cfpid=-9348922…

    I am guessing that you already know about all that...because it was so easy to find him...AND...

    those trees do not seem to contain any info from Ireland which you say is your main interest...is that correct?  

    I notice that several trees give his birth date as  4/5 Mar 1844...but I did not see any justification for that...

                                                                                                          best regards,

                                                                                                          jfd

     

     

     

     

    jfdillon

    Saturday 27th Oct 2018, 06:16PM
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    official Missouri death certificate gives birth date as 5 Mar 1843 in Cork                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  best regards,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 jfd                                                                                                                                                                                                     

    jfdillon

    Sunday 28th Oct 2018, 03:24PM
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    following up on Donie's suggestion to search irishgenealogy gives the attached marriage record and several                                 birth records in succeeding years...                                                                                                                                                                                              best regards,                                                                                                                                                                                         jfd                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

     

    jfdillon

    Sunday 28th Oct 2018, 10:40PM
  • Another to consider is marriage on 20 Nov 1839 at "Roman Catholic, Dromtarriff, Cork, Ireland between Jer. Callaghan & Mgt. Donovan."

    Don't be fazed by the alternative spelling. Callaghan is more common that Callahan. On the day of marriage or baptism, spelling relies on the education of the parish priest, or on emigation the shipping clerk!

    Unfortunately, the NLI image files jump from early November 1939 to January 1840. Perhaps another book was used, or some pages lost etc. However, you could contact the current parish priest. Alternatively, the good folk at NLI may hunt down the missing pages (Nov & Dec 1839). Often the parish registers will record a 'residence' or townland of the parishioners.

    NLI provides a search by Parish name, on page https://registers.nli.ie/.  If you enter "Dromtarriff", select Dromtarriffe, Diocese of Kerry.  This brings you to page (https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0047) and a map showing the location of this parish in County Cork.

    Best wishes

    Eire2Go

     

    Eire2Go

    Monday 29th Oct 2018, 12:14AM

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