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Hello, a chairde,

I'm looking for relatives of Peter O'Brien b. 1776 and married to Ellen Kelleher. All the information I am giving are from records of South Parish, Cork City. They had 5 children: Michael b. 1802, Daniel b. 1803, Mary b. 1810, Denis b.1813 and Ellen b. 1818. Denis (3X Great Grandfather) married Catherine Sullivan in 1841 and had two children born in Ireland, Hanna b. 1843 and Mary b. 1845. Immigrated to New Jersey USA in 1846. He had a cousin who immigrated at the same time by the name of Cornelius O'Brien who was around the same age as Denis.

I'm visiting Ireland in Sept. of this year hoping to find relatives and more records. Any information would be helpfull.

 

Le meas,

 

Robert Graham

r63graham

Friday 6th Jul 2012, 01:11AM

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  • Hi Robert,

    There are Roman Catholic church records available for Cork city: St. Finbarr's (South). These date from 1756 for baptismal records and from 1753 for marriage records. You can find these at the National Library of Ireland, B.1776-1856, Pos. 4778; B.1857-1880, Pos. 4779; M.1775-1810, Pos. 4779; M.1810-1880 Pos. 47801.

    Could you please post your message on the following South Parish page: http://www.irelandxo.com/group/st-finbars-cork You can find information about this here: http://www.corkandross.org/parishes.jsp?parishID=58

    You can check for information about the frequency of the name in the mid-19th century and any other variant spellings of the name here: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

    You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38). Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS).

    Have you checked this website? http://infowanted.bc.edu/

    The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. the tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

    There is a book by Tim Cadogan you might find useful called 'Tracing your Cork Ancestors', 1998.

    Anither book by A.C. Robinson called ' St. Fin Barre's Cathedral, Cork: historical and descriptive', 1897.

    Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Sinead Cooney

    Genealogist (Ireland XO)

    Monday 16th Jul 2012, 03:40PM

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